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Compulsory licensing and mandatory kill cords with fines for non compliance 130 22.15%
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Old 12 August 2013, 04:44   #531
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There is an old saying that comes to mind..... two heads are better than one...... 79% in this instance

Nuff said.
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Old 12 August 2013, 04:54   #532
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You should read them reports more carefully, MIAB have a tendency to generalise events and wording to make there reports more sensational, you might find that a guy died in a drunken stupor on a pontoon, to them that is marine related, didn't matter he was fishing.
I've got enough regulation in my life and I don't want no more, my old dad said rules are just guidelines, that's good enough for me
The figures I qouted were the only ones I could find, and did not detail what had been investigated, or what the person was doing, however please feel free to enlighten me with any other up to date official figures!

There was however a comment that there were many more times the amount which were not reported to the MAIB, or resulted in injuries/rescues.

I do however not agree that the MAIB sensationalizes the reports, just as they do not apportion blame, or liability.

As I said, ask the RNLI how many people they help each year who dont have safety equipment etc etc. I would suspect the number is more than a handful?

We would not need rules if people behaved responsibly, just tell me how to get people to behave in a responsible manner, and I will campaign to get rid of a whole bunch of laws
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We could all campaign for a better life on the water but the more intelligent ones have realised that they are flogging a dead horse, and haven't got that amount of free time to mount such a crusade.
On the MIAB front there was a guy a few years back who got hold of one of these reports and investigated them more thoroughly, I can't remember the full details of all the events but it was well fluffed for better reading, the fishing one was one, there was another guy who fell over a mooring line, there was another one where someone jump ashore and landed on a woman.
I would suggest that you do your job and pastime as well and as joyful as you can make it and worry less about peeing on someone else's bonfire.
I leave you with two more quotes for my old dad, never waste grey matter on something you can alter and you die if you worry, you die if you don't, so why worry
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We could all campaign for a better life on the water but the more intelligent ones have realised that they are flogging a dead horse, and haven't got that amount of free time to mount such a crusade.
On the MIAB front there was a guy a few years back who got hold of one of these reports and investigated them more thoroughly, I can't remember the full details of all the events but it was well fluffed for better reading, the fishing one was one, there was another guy who fell over a mooring line, there was another one where someone jump ashore and landed on a woman.
I would suggest that you do your job and pastime as well and as joyful as you can make it and worry less about peeing on someone else's bonfire.
I leave you with two more quotes for my old dad, never waste grey matter on something you can alter and you die if you worry, you die if you don't, so why worry
Good point, but the another quote along the lines of, "the only thing evil needs is for good men to do nothing" or something like that.
Without people capaigning we would still have slavery, women would be still not have the vote, poll tax, the list could go on and on and on, and we would still have rotten boroughs, and massive corruption of politicians (more than we do now!)
However I take your point, and do enjoy going out in my boat, and having fun, catching fish etc.
However this is a forum where people express thier views and idea's and as such I put mine across, it is just such a shame that for so many people who purport to have safety forefront in their minds are so vocal about wanting to keep the current status quo, and do nothing to enhance safety at sea!
I am trying to propose a middle way that would avoid heavy handed regulation, as I dont want it, just as most others dont, but fear unless there is some changes, we are going to get it imposed upon us.
Burying our heads in the sand will not work I am afraid, we can be part of the solution, or have it imposed upon us
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Agree with you but after nearly 60 years and more than 50 on boats( dad was commercial fisherman) I have come to the conclusion trying to find middle is not achievable. The MCA always seem to bugger it up and go over the top. And it always costs us more money it seems. So better to leave it than get it buggered up even more
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