View Poll Results: Compulsory licensing and mandatory kill cords with fines for non compliance?
Compulsory licensing and mandatory kill cords with fines for non compliance 130 22.15%
Keep the current unregulated system with an emphasis on education 457 77.85%
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Old 30 May 2013, 12:41   #471
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You have closed your poll too soon ..... I guess you don't want any more people disagreeing with you.

The RYA has for years consistently opposed licensing/ registration of private leisure craft. So should you.
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Have you actually read the thread? It usually helps.

It's Powerboat and Rib magazine that were talking of campaigning for mandatory killcords/licencing etc. NOT Ribnet. They are in no way affiliated to us apart from paying us some money to advertise, and the opinion of Hugo Montgomery Swan (the proprietor of PB&R) doesnt' seem to be echoed by our members.

If you read back, you'll find my thoughts on it on several occasions.
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Old 31 May 2013, 14:05   #472
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Calling Nos4R2.

Sorry for conusing you with RIB Hugo Montgomery Swan & RIBNET. I joined the forum entirely to say NO to Mr. Swan's two-pronged proposal.

Yes, I did skim through the thread .... in my opinion anyone who does not use a killcord when driving ...er sorry .. helming ... a power boat/RIB is a bit of an idiot, as is anyone who buys any sort of watercraft without seeking advice and/or takes it out on the water without supervision/instruction in handling the boat and understanding the water.

Being an idiot is not a criminal offence. Making these things compulsory and dragging the law into it ...... NO.

Licencing private watercraft in their home waters? A tiresome, bureaucratic expensive waste of time and money. Give the money to the RNLI - they will put it to good use.

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Old 31 May 2013, 14:08   #473
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No worries, it's a long thread to read.

I set the poll to a week long as it meant there was time for people who are registered to vote, but not time for any pressure group to try hijacking it.
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An afterthought.

On second thoughts I have to admit that I frequently don't use the killcord when travelling fast in rough water - one hand is on the wheel, the other juggling the throttle and my feet/legs moving to keep my balance as the boat heels, attitude changing according to position on the wave/ trough; bend and straighten to keep wedged onto my seat etc. A kill cord fastened to any limb gets pulled out ..... with potentially disastrous consequences. I've tried a long cord on my arm/leg .... it inevitably gets tangled, catches on something else and ... kills the engine, bringing the bows down hard at exactly the wrong moment .....

Any ideas for overcoming this killcord problem would be welcome. Please don't say anything about stretchy elastic ....
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An afterthought.

On second thoughts I have to admit that I frequently don't use the killcord when travelling fast in rough water - one hand is on the wheel, the other juggling the throttle and my feet/legs moving to keep my balance as the boat heels, attitude changing according to position on the wave/ trough; bend and straighten to keep wedged onto my seat etc. A kill cord fastened to any limb gets pulled out ..... with potentially disastrous consequences. I've tried a long cord on my arm/leg .... it inevitably gets tangled, catches on something else and ... kills the engine, bringing the bows down hard at exactly the wrong moment .....

Any ideas for overcoming this killcord problem would be welcome. Please don't say anything about stretchy elastic ....
What about Lycra, my wife looks great in Lycra..........
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Calling Nos4R2.
anyone who does not use a killcord when driving ...er sorry .. helming ... a power boat/RIB is a bit of an idiot
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On second thoughts I have to admit that I frequently don't use the killcord when travelling fast in rough water - one hand is on the wheel, the other juggling the throttle and my feet/legs moving to keep my balance as the boat heels, attitude changing according to position on the wave/ trough; bend and straighten to keep wedged onto my seat etc. A kill cord fastened to any limb gets pulled out ..... with potentially disastrous consequences. I've tried a long cord on my arm/leg .... it inevitably gets tangled, catches on something else and ... kills the engine, bringing the bows down hard at exactly the wrong moment .....
So you are an idiot.

Tip #1 if you cant control the boat safely at the speed you are doing slow down.

Have you considered what happens if you go for a swim in tis circumstance?

Tip #2 Have you tried attaching it to lifejacket rather than a limb

Tip #3 it only needs to disconnect if tugged REALLY hard like 50kg of weight plus. SO have you tried running it through a loop on the console so that there is slack on your side and gentle tugs tug the loop and hard tugs pul the plug
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An afterthought.

On second thoughts I have to admit that I frequently don't use the killcord when travelling fast in rough water - one hand is on the wheel, the other juggling the throttle and my feet/legs moving to keep my balance as the boat heels, attitude changing according to position on the wave/ trough; bend and straighten to keep wedged onto my seat etc. A kill cord fastened to any limb gets pulled out ..... with potentially disastrous consequences. I've tried a long cord on my arm/leg .... it inevitably gets tangled, catches on something else and ... kills the engine, bringing the bows down hard at exactly the wrong moment .....

Any ideas for overcoming this killcord problem would be welcome. Please don't say anything about stretchy elastic ....
It shouldn't do unless either the console end is in the wrong place or it detaches far too easily. My killcord - tied around the knee - goes to the key at the bottom of the throttle, about a foot from my knee regardless of whether I am sitting with my knees against the console or standing braced with a foot under each tube. It only pulls if I leave the console, there's no position I could think of where I would still be even vaguely in control of the boat where it would go tight. I guess by the time the coily bit on mine is fully extended it is the best part of a metre long, and it won't pull off the key until it gets to that point.

Maybe stating the obvious, but travelling fast in rough water is exactly when you want it ... your point about the wisdom of not wearing one was well made
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Any ideas for overcoming this killcord problem would be welcome. Please don't say anything about stretchy elastic ....
Yamaha make an excellent kill switch and they can be located anywhere joining into the existing wiring which means that you can mount it anywhere on the console so that it doesn't get snagged - sounds like you need to do that before something horrible happens!
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What do we do?

Today, coming out of the Hamble I went past 6 ribs, only one had the kill cord on. Most had kids on board - all without life jackets. On returning to the Itchen more ribs coming out - no cord! The sun is out! Complacency rules! I don't know the answer any more! And what do we do about the "pros" from Leopard and the like.
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well according to wisdom and votes shown here, more education i guess.

Tho i do remember someones tag line being "you cant educate pork"?

I still stand by my opinion of legislation, as you cant enforce something that is not legislated for.
If you are posting here you know the risks and HAVE been educated. If not, who is going to educate you if you don't know you need education?

Believe me, people take no notice of free advice until its too late.
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