View Poll Results: Compulsory licensing and mandatory kill cords with fines for non compliance?
Compulsory licensing and mandatory kill cords with fines for non compliance 130 22.15%
Keep the current unregulated system with an emphasis on education 457 77.85%
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Old 13 May 2013, 16:15   #381
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What would we think of someone riding a jetski (PWC) without a kill cord ?

What would we think of a child on a bike without a helmet ?

What would we think of a motorcyclist without a helmet ?
Not very much given the low opinion most on this forum have of jet skiers.

I'd think "oh, look there's a kid without a helmet on, so what?" I was seriously into cycling for a number of years and never wore a helmet. I climbed for a lot longer still and never wore a helmet. Bike and climbing helmets are ghey.

I'd think "Look, there's a motorcyclist who's forgotten to put his helmet on" or "There's a french guy who's just come off the boat and doesn't realise il faut porter le casque ici".
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Old 13 May 2013, 16:23   #382
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I guess that you should have read this thread properly before posting your first post. Most of us are for wearing a KC but through education not legislation
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Well said, it's like banging your head off a brick wall and thats just amongst us, god help us i we involve a government party.
Well said too.
I am beginning to despair that people are wading in and just assuming nobody here wants to wear a killcord. THat is NOT the case AT ALL.

READ THE THREAD! If you assume that we don't want to use killcords and you've voted, you haven't even read the questions!

I've said it before on this thread. We have a perfectly good safety solution-the killcord. It doesnt need reinventing. It works perfectly. If yours specifically doesn't , thats an issue with your boat layout and you need to fix it.

We don't need the watered down non-qualifications, the escalating admin fees or the taxes that regulation would bring.
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Old 13 May 2013, 16:31   #383
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I guess that you should have read this thread properly before posting your first post. Most of us are for wearing a KC but through education not legislation
There is 40 pages to wade through! I gave up trying to keep up, my speed reading is not what it was.



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I'd think "oh, look there's a kid without a helmet on, so what?" I was seriously into cycling for a number of years and never wore a helmet. I climbed for a lot longer still and never wore a helmet. Bike and climbing helmets are ghey.
There are somethings that you really should keep to yourself, I never wore a helmet climbing, skiing, cycling, or even riding horses but things have changed now, they even wear them skydiving, the world is a more dangerous place but technology means we can wear helmets without really noticing them and after seeing to relatives knocked out on the slopes and some pretty horrendous cycling accidents I'd consider anyone with your attitude a bit of an idiot.
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There is 40 pages to wade through! I gave up trying to keep up, my speed reading is not what it was.
Nowt wrong with your speed typing
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Maybe Nos4r2 you could for the less well read ( at least on this thread) re-state that most people DO wear their kill cords when fitted and are happy to do so rather than be forced to by legislation that could be expanded to cover all aspects of our hobby !!
Basically it started as poll to see what percentage of people want to be 'policed' when out enjoying the water with all the burden of fines and fees or preferred the current situation with the emphasis on education !!
If somebody chooses to ignore the benefits of safety gear I personally see that as their choice and if the tragedy of the accident in Padstow recently proves to be what happened although very sad no amount of legislation will alter that fact! Education will and if I have to educate my family on the benefits of safety equipment I'm more than happy to do so. To be honest I wouldn't want to put my lot in harms way or anyone elses.
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Ok....key point summary
  • Thomas is a good guy who's giving away free killcord warning stickers,
  • Very very few people don't want to wear killcords.
  • Most forget every now and then and will try harder.
  • Some have had a very nasty fright and will now wear them religiously.
  • Cookee is special and has a very sexy fast boat with bondage straps so he's exempt
  • Muppets are now arriving who aren't even reading the questions in the poll before voting.

Is that about right?
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Ok....key point summary
  • Thomas is a good guy who's giving away free killcord warning stickers,
  • Very very few people don't want to wear killcords.
  • Most forget every now and then and will try harder.
  • Some have had a very nasty fright and will now wear them religiously.
  • Cookee is special and has a very sexy fast boat with bondage straps so he's exempt
  • Muppets are now arriving who aren't even reading the questions in the poll before voting.
Is that about right?
Nice summary !
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Maybe Nos4r2 you could for the less well read ( at least on this thread) re-state that most people DO wear their kill cords when fitted and are happy to do so rather than be forced to by legislation that could be expanded to cover all aspects of our hobby !!
Good idea-I might edit the title as it could clear some of this up.

<edit> I've edited the original post in big red bold letters. Hopefully it'll make people at least read the questions and first post properly.
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There are somethings that you really should keep to yourself, I never wore a helmet climbing, skiing, cycling, or even riding horses but things have changed now, they even wear them skydiving, the world is a more dangerous place but technology means we can wear helmets without really noticing them and after seeing to relatives knocked out on the slopes and some pretty horrendous cycling accidents I'd consider anyone with your attitude a bit of an idiot.
I don't give a toss what you think my attitude is to be honest. 99% of climbers don't wear helmets because those are only designed to redistribute vertical impacts and most UK climbers are active on small crags with good quality rock. There's nothing wrong with wearing helmets in the hills but I'm talking about rock climbing not mountaineering. As for cycling - whatever; it's a personal choice. I get pretty fed up of seeing lard arses riding around at the weekend on their Litespeed frames, 10 abreast, all wearing helmets and strolling along at 10mph. Simply ghey. Go and do a couple of circuits of Constitution Hill in Swansea; that'll put the colour back in their cheeks.
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