View Poll Results: Compulsory licensing and mandatory kill cords with fines for non compliance?
Compulsory licensing and mandatory kill cords with fines for non compliance 130 22.15%
Keep the current unregulated system with an emphasis on education 457 77.85%
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Old 09 May 2013, 12:54   #181
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Legislation WILL NOT save another injury or life. Dumb people will always find away to show their "dumbness". Drunk driving is illegal & it still happens. Oregon has a mandatory boaters license (wish I would have done it when it was free) & basically, if a boat has a gas powered motor-it needs to be registered-that's how the state gets their money to "protect" us.

I will say that if rules are going to be made, YOU WANT A VOICE IN THE PROCESS. If the magazines are acting in the sports best interest based upon what the "representatives" in government are thinking the sport needs, then maybe attention should given. Government is out for ONE THING & that's collecting our money, nothing else. Just like all the gun debate hear in the US, no legislation, or new rule about guns will save another life, anything proposed by government WILL only bring in more money...& do nothing for the people.
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Old 09 May 2013, 12:56   #182
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When numpties drive boats dangerously they put innocent lives at risk so legislation is not alway a bad thing.

We need a licence for a car, a plane, a helicopter and even a VHF so why not a powerful boat? and while they're at it make cyclists get one too.
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Old 09 May 2013, 13:08   #183
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Interestingly, so far out of 390 voters, 76% would like things to stay as they are. Would be good to know how many of those have a qualification?
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The only people to benefit from any legislation or compulsory training would be those on the receiving end of the cash that would be generated. People who currently wear killcords through choice would continue to do so, & those who don't would just ignore any rules due to the fact that they would be unenforceable. The only result would be another tax on those of us who decide to stay legal. All the talk of enforcement & legislation is cobblers unless we adopt the Continental system where you have more agencies afloat checking documents than boaters. The French have about 5 at the last count, we've been stopped & boarded twice & had our "Papiers" checked, & who do you think pays for it all??????????? 45% base rate income tax anyone + an annual "Leesonse"
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Old 09 May 2013, 13:19   #185
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The RYA PB2 course concentrates mainly on low speed manoeuvring and boat handling. A very small part of the 2 days is on handling a boat at planning speeds. So a PB2 course will help stop you denting and scratching your boat and other boats when manoeuvring, and make your boating less stressful, it will not teach you how to handle a boat in waves at speed. That's for you to learn later by experimenting on your own and building up your experience.

What a PB2 course will do is stress the importance of:

Using lifejackets or buoyancy aids all the time
Using the kill cord on leg or buoyancy aid all the time
One hand on the throttle, one on the wheel all the time

So the way to save lives is to take notice of the above three points and act on them, regardless of if you decide you want formal training or not.
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I would like to point out that this is a personal opinion and not in any way Ribnet policy.

HMS.

The stickers are a FABULOUS idea. I don't have any issue with your magazine name being on them.

However.

You are NOT an elected industry spokesperson and your campaign for regulation is unwelcome. I repeat my earlier statements about government involvement being a negative force.
The RNLI refuse government funding for a very good reason-they'll be messed around with. If you think we'd be otherwise I'm afraid you're deluded.

If the campaign for legislation does not end, I will be cancelling my subscription to your magazine. I urge others who feel the same way to vote with their feet as well.

If you're going to put your head over the parapet,deal the enemy a crippling blow otherwise all you do is to shout 'look at me, I'm here' and give them somewhere to aim.

Hopefully they haven't seen you yet.
Excellent, exactly what I was about write!
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Interestingly, so far out of 390 voters, 76% would like things to stay as they are. Would be good to know how many of those have a qualification?
I voted to keep things as they are. I have:
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Old 09 May 2013, 13:27   #188
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I am not into legislation s--t happens everyday very sad situation we will all learn from others mistakes best thing is to move on and deal with it
One example is Colin McRea and his helicopter
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Licence for driving a boat (with test which includes rules of the road and importance of safety features, such as wearing a kill cord): definitely.

Legislation to make wearing kill cord compulsory: probably too difficult to enforce.

Most of the serious accidents that I am aware of have been the result of not wearing a kill cord.

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Old 09 May 2013, 13:36   #190
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Any qualification means nothing without common sense !!! If people choose to ignore the advantages of safety equipment all the pieces of paper in the world won't make any difference. Kill cords, lifejackets, flares, vhf etc etc are there for a reason.
Pure bad luck can play a part. This particular tragic accident has possibly highlighted the benefit of wearing a kill cord or device to stop the engine. Most rational people will make up their own minds if they wear one or not. Fining people will not stop those who choose not to.
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