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Old 01 June 2013, 05:09   #1
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Collapsed bulb & oil delivery issue

Finally got the boat out for a run yesterday. All electronics run fine but the oil issue we experienced once last year and the fuel issue we have experienced since late 2011 both reared there heads leaving us in limp home mode though thankfully only for about a mile at the end.

Firstly: randomly, every so often the engine just dies, and the fuel bulb is completely collapsed and impossible to sort. Leave it a few minutes and it very slowly regains shape and after a bit of squeezing it eventually goes back to normal. I don't think it can be a breather issue because I unscrewed the filler cap when it was collapsed and there was no rush of air. I suspect therefore a random blockage in the fuel pipe....debris in the tank that's floating around maybe?

Secondly: at the end of the day having run for a good few hours the "no oil/low oil pressure" warning comes up again, limiting us to 1000 revs. This happened last year in cherbourg and the end result was that having been left for a week the dealer who looked at it saw nothing wrong and just filled up the oil tank (despite there being plenty of oil already he just wanted to charge something!). The oil bulb is rock hard always. I am going to have the oil filter changed and perhaps the oil pressure sensor too as I am pretty sure it is the case of the engine thinking it has no oil rather than not actually having any. If you shut it off then restart it gives you 20 seconds of normal running to any speed and it sounds absolutely fine. Any thoughts where to look?
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Are you actually using oil from the tank? I'd change the fuel AND oil bulbs as a matter of course as well. It could easily be faults with them.
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Are you actually using oil from the tank? I'd change the fuel AND oil bulbs as a matter of course as well. It could easily be faults with them.
Yep I brimmed it on thursday, and it went down by about an inch after about 30nm navigation yesterday. This is the second fuel bulb that has shown the same issue as it was changed half way through last season.
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What brand bulb is it? It wouldn't be unusual to have one go wrong when it's not very old.
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What brand bulb is it? It wouldn't be unusual to have one go wrong when it's not very old.
I'm not sure, I think it's genuine BRP. "Tempo" is the dodgiest brand isn't it?
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I'd go for Quicksilver if I was changing them-not had one fail yet, and they don't go hard as badly as other brands.

Personally I wouldn't use a Tempo
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The fuel issues sound like it could be debris in the fuel pipe. I stripped out a pipe from my osprey last weekend and found it full of resin from the fuel tank that had collected at the fuel transducer barb.
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I thought this all would have been sorted because all the lines between the console and the engine were replaced.

I had originally said on here that the underdeck trunks were full of oil due to poor joins but when pressed I had no explanation where this was coming from. It was found that there were THREE joins in both the oil and fuel cable. Little plastic double bayonets wrapped in gaffa. The At least a gallon of XD50 was pumped out from the underdeck trunk where these had been leaking!!! It is a shame replacing with a single length of pipe as it should be has not cured the issues.
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The fuel issues sound like it could be debris in the fuel pipe. I stripped out a pipe from my osprey last weekend and found it full of resin from the fuel tank that had collected at the fuel transducer barb.
I do seem to remember you made a post about the wrong resin being used and clogging up the pipe but I can't seem to find it?? perhaps I am mistaken.

The fuel pipe will be removed and probably replaced dependant on its condition. The blockage must be on the tank side of the bulb for sure.

Oil tank wise, replace oil filter and sensor is the only appropriate approach I think.
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fuel pick up in the tank? blocked at the gauze filter inside the tank itself. (simply cos a colleague on here had exactly the same symptoms last month). Do you have a connection for a spare tank and if so is it ok on that tank
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