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Old 05 March 2006, 15:00   #41
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Originally Posted by Roy Smith
We have a scorpion and i have wondered about how the boat would shift water in a big stuff, do the small drain plugs realy work, or as we did on our Cobra Carry a buckett.
A flawed system due to electrics being involved as I said before. The only way to move a serious volume of water are large scuppers with forward movement.

Originally Posted by Top banana
Im in the process of replacing my ball type bailers with \elephant trunks.
can the trunks be left down while afloat, or do they need to be hooked up.
Have them up when berthed and down underway.

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Old 05 March 2006, 17:58   #42
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I've occasionally left ours down whilst moored. The tube collapses under water pressure and partially seals. The slow ingress is easily dealt with by the bilge pump for short periods (ie over lunchtime).

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Old 06 March 2006, 03:44   #43
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Cobras do have low freeboard at the stern and the batteries are low in the engine compartment bilge. Moving them up, possibly to the sides of the engine compartment would be a good idea.

I can't remember where the engine air intakes are, but it might be worth blocking them off and fitting some to the top of the engine box - as per Pacifics.

Running large bore pipes from the deck, through the engine compartment and out through the transom might help with drainage - but the outlets will be a long way below the water - you'll need long trunks and remote operation for them to be useful.

Most boats have inadequate bilge pumps fitted, especially in an engine compartment. A 500gph is easy and cheap for a boatbuilder to fit. 2000gph, or more, with a reliable float switch is really what should be fitted.

Regarding other comments about coding and transom height. The code does not specify a transom height - it asks for freeboard of 250mm. A Pacific fulfils this even though the "transom" is a small lip. Whats important is sole height to give you the freeboard.
An Arctic 20 has the same type of outboard brackets as an Atlantic and no "transom" as such - but passes because the deck is 250mm above the waterline.

I'm glad no-one was hurt and it sounds ike the boat will be OK.

One final general point - probably for others more than you.
Regarding contacting your insurance company at the earliest opportunity that is good advice. However, if the incident was on a Saturday, waiting to call your insurers on Monday might be too late to carry out effective first aid.
You should act as if you are uninsured and arrange to have first aid work carried out as soon as you can - within 24 hours if at all possible. If you leave it a few days you could be looking at a complete engine rebuild. If you get it started within a few hours of the event you might just be looking at a new starter, alternator and parts of the loom.

Better luck next time!
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Old 06 March 2006, 09:00   #44
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Freudian slip?

Originally Posted by jwalker
drain drunks
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Old 06 March 2006, 10:11   #45
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Well spied. I hadn't noticed it.
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Old 07 March 2006, 02:10   #46
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Originally Posted by Roy Smith
We have a scorpion and i have wondered about how the boat would shift water in a big stuff, do the small drain plugs realy work?
Don't worry Roy - they work very well. I have to confess that I have turned both outboard & inboard Scorpions into floating paddling pools. So long as you keep the engine running & some forward momentum the water clears very quickly

I miss the sound of an Etec in the morning
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