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Old 28 October 2014, 03:31   #11
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I've had both the 8.6 m and 6.6 m,loved them both. 8.6 was an inboard and 6.6 had a F200 yamaha. Never had handling issues although they were both older hull designs. I know of one for sale with twin 225 Verados at a very good price,it's acceleration is very impressive it is a very stable boat to drive and is in very good condition.


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Old 28 October 2014, 09:41   #12
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Thanks you guys for all your help! it looks to me as the reports suggests that the extended spray rails near the keel to the transom on the modified 2010 onwards boats may be a problem? I had a demo on a new 6.6m in 2012 with my family and was told by the owners son that with a 200 instead of the 150 it could hook in very fast tight turns but it would be unlikely that I would ever get to that point? I'm guessing that was the modified hull? Does anyone know if there's a significant difference between the Cobra 755 hulls compared to the 7.6 or 8m before 2010? Deeper V or more bow sheer, they look different.
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Old 28 October 2014, 09:45   #13
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Sorry Low Flyer I missed your message! The twin 225 might break the bank as I'm moving up from an Avon 560 with an F80
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Old 28 October 2014, 10:36   #14
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My personal feeling is the report over played the 'handling' of the Cobra hull in that accident.

My feeling is nearly any boat of that length and power needs a degree of respectful handling.

Cobras rarely have any horror stories (that I have ever heard) -, they look good, go well and seem to last well too. As said they aren't the ruff tough wanting to be a lifeboat/ commercial type and not the flat water lightly built spec at the other end of the spectrum . Generally all round good bits of kit
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Old 28 October 2014, 10:56   #15
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There are many hundreds of Cobra ribs, with thousands of hours with all sorts of engine combinations, hull lengths, options, used in very many different ways.

Any boat packing 300 hp deserves to be treated with a degree of respect, especially in tight manoeuvres. They can and will bite and with the sheer brute force of big outboard it can happen very quickly. If you are used to 80 hp in a 5.6 Avon (great boat btw I had one with 100 on the back) a degree of caution, get some experience and familiarity, combined with a sensible approach to safety and you will be just fine.

Find a good one, buy it and enjoy your time on the water.
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Old 28 October 2014, 16:00   #16
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I had an Avon 560 with a 100 hp Yamaha, lovely little boat but you will not believe the difference when you try a Cobra. I have had a 7.55m Cobra with a 250hp Yamaha which was an excellent combination and gave me many hours of fun and I never had any issues with regards to seakeeping. I now have the latest 8m with the worlds heaviest outboard, which incidentally is lighter than twin Yamaha 115s and much faster, but no one ever moans about engine weight when its a twin set up !! Back on topic, I'm too old to try and do wheelies and hand brake turns(or whatever the equivalent is in boating terms) in a boat, but if you want a good seakeeping boat in choppy water with a bit of luxury I think you could do a lot lot worse. I have often gone from Plymouth to Falmouth for a Sunday run, which is about 100 miles and in the various condition that you can encounter I have never had any handling issues. I have had power boats for over 40 years and started off with a 12ft scorpion with a penta 25hp outboards and circumnavigated Anglesey with only a road map for navigation. With regards to the report on the Padstow incident I felt that they were comparing the handling to the ultimate that physics would allow rather than compare to an average RIB. If you try to do sharp turns like jet skis can then you will come unstuck in any RIB. If you want a quality RIB for family use then you would be hard pressed to find a better package. Anyway good luck in your search and respect the sea.
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Old 21 December 2015, 06:35   #17
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I've been pondering Cobra ribs over a mid morn coffee.
My thoughts are, for what they're worth , Cobras are almost victims of their own appeal. They are Ribeyes for the better heeled. By that, they appeal to those who can afford a very nice comfortable rib, but may not have gotton there via the knackered Avon/Flatacraft route.
Those who did begin with knackered Avons, may not necessarily arrive at a Cobra.

Consequently, a disproportionate amount of Cobra owners have large powerful ribs with little experience. So the accidents that we all know of, are less a reflection on Cobra ribs, more on the people who own them.

Coffee over, I'll shut up now.
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Can't / won't disagree with you Mollers.

Suspect that as it sounds like they are quite a good sea boat, people with limited experience may feel safer and so let down their Gaurd especially when conditions are benign
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Old 21 December 2015, 17:47   #19
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I've been pondering Cobra ribs over a mid morn coffee.
My thoughts are, for what they're worth , Cobras are almost victims of their own appeal. They are Ribeyes for the better heeled. By that, they appeal to those who can afford a very nice comfortable rib, but may not have gotton there via the knackered Avon/Flatacraft route.
Those who did begin with knackered Avons, may not necessarily arrive at a Cobra.

Consequently, a disproportionate amount of Cobra owners have large powerful ribs with little experience. So the accidents that we all know of, are less a reflection on Cobra ribs, more on the people who own them.

Coffee over, I'll shut up now.
I think that is true about most "toys", just because you can afford one doesn't mean you know how to use it. I've been around boats , power and sail for over 45 years, motorcycling for over 35 and had some pretty quick cars over the years, but I've always worked up to the powerful stuff. It's about control, and if you don't understand what is going on, trouble is never far away.
I have an 8.6 Cobra, my 8th powerboat. But the breed can attract more money than sense. When working on my boat one day I was asked what I thought of Cobra by a prospective purchaser. It was a first boat so I suggested something 5m with 80-100hp to see if they liked it. Next thing I know he turns with a 7.5m Cobra with 250 on the back. Needless to say after stuffing it off Old Harry flooding and wrecking the batteries, running aground and wrecking the prop and gearbox and generally scaring his family witless so they wouldn't go out anymore, it has been sold, fortunately no-one hurt just battered pride.
It really isn't the boat, it's the user and a good looking rib with a "leisure" slant feels almost like a quality car. Smooth, powerful and solid, until the conditions get the better of experience.
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Old 22 December 2015, 06:57   #20
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All of the above might be true to an extent - but it might also be that there are proportionately more Cobras around than other brands?
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