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Old 27 February 2014, 19:10   #1
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starts fine , push clutch in thats fine , goes in gear [ even reverse ] release clutch car wont move and engine keeps running even when 4 wheel drive has been engaged
drive shafts are fine
please help
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Old 27 February 2014, 19:19   #2
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starts fine , push clutch in thats fine , goes in gear [ even reverse ] release clutch car wont move and engine keeps running even when 4 wheel drive has been engaged
drive shafts are fine
please help
is it stuck between high n low range Tim, be like it was in neutral!
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Input shaft maybe
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Old 27 February 2014, 19:23   #4
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it like its in neatral but you the lever still moves from low ratio to high ratio
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Old 27 February 2014, 19:24   #5
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thats what i was thinking
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Old 27 February 2014, 19:27   #6
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it like its in neatral but you the lever still moves from low ratio to high ratio
Sorry from two wheel drive to 4 wheel drive and if you lost a clutch you would still have one set of wheels driving
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Rack the vehicle and with it in gear try to turn the driveshaft. Does it turn freely? If you start the truck and put it in gear can you feel the gears in the trans moving? How about the transfer case?

With the engine running and clutch released can you put it into any gear?

Sounds like it is time to tear it apart and figure out what broke. Usually if a clutch disintegrates the pedal goes away too. Input shafts and many other things can cause the same symptoms.
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if you lost a clutch you would still have one set of wheels driving
No you wouldn't.
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Does it go in 2 wheel drive
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Rack the vehicle and with it in gear try to turn the driveshaft. Does it turn freely? If you start the truck and put it in gear can you feel the gears in the trans moving? How about the transfer case?

With the engine running and clutch released can you put it into any gear?

Sounds like it is time to tear it apart and figure out what broke. Usually if a clutch disintegrates the pedal goes away too. Input shafts and many other things can cause the same symptoms.

no you can not feel the gears moving and yes with the engine running you can find any gear thanks peter and yes I think its time to get it out , repiare it and then get a mans towing truck
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Old 27 February 2014, 20:43   #11
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Does it go in 2 wheel drive
yes it does very easy thanks mick
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Might be transfer box then have a look on a jeep forum
At least it's still usable
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Old 27 February 2014, 21:56   #13
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Had similar twice with Defenders, both times the linkage to the box from the diff lock lever broke hence no drive. Box stuck in a neutral gear. Easy fix both times but I've no idea if your jeep operates a similar system?
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no you can not feel the gears moving and yes with the engine running you can find any gear
There is a disconnect between the engine and gears of the transmission. My best guess would be the input shaft or something related. You might be lucky and the clutch disk broke. Never hurts to be hopefull
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Old 28 February 2014, 11:32   #15
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Thank you everybody for your input ,
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Hi Tim, did you just jump in it and find it this way or did it happen when in use, clutch,halfshaft,or g,box input shaft. Sounds like a box out jobby.
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Feel for you,

My job in morning is to change mine. Can not complain 140k and its been abused big time,, still the original dual mass shite,,,

It's getting a conversion kit, Dreading it hate rolling around on the floor
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Grrrrr. Horrible torx screws

Who ever invented a dual mass fly wheel wants fu#^ng
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£500 part, £150 to fit, friends rates. Oh and a new turbo too. Hopefully get another 90k and ten yrs out of it.
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Grrrrr. Horrible torx screws

Who ever invented a dual mass fly wheel wants fu#^ng
Wait until you come across a dual mass that has frozen where you can't access the bolts Although a plasma cutter makes short work of it, a grinder can get the job done.
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