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Old 25 February 2014, 17:02   #1
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Clearance distances

Looking for help to find regs on distances to remain clear of containers and large ships.
Am aware of 1000m in front and believed it was 100/500m on all other quarters, But due to memory I cant recal where I found this

Particularly aimed at restricted waters of Southampton at this time. Thanks in advance
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Old 25 February 2014, 17:51   #2
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Good question - interested in the answer(s) myself.
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Old 25 February 2014, 18:01   #3
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Looking for help to find regs on distances to remain clear of containers and large ships.
Am aware of 1000m in front and believed it was 100/500m on all other quarters, But due to memory I cant recal where I found this

Particularly aimed at restricted waters of Southampton at this time. Thanks in advance
The answer is printed on both Admiralty and Imray charts for the zone in front of Cowes. It is a moving prohibitive zone of 1000 metres ahead and 100 metres off the beam.

This applies with the marked zone on the chart, there is no set clearance astern. I would however use common sence in the rest of the area.
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Hi Ian

Try this

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Moving Prohibited Zone’’ means
an area extending 1000 metres ahead
and 100 metres either side of
any vessel of over 150 metres length overall while it navigates in the precautionary area

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Cheers Steve, interesting reading, also covers speeds in area
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The answer is printed on both Admiralty and Imray charts for the zone in front of Cowes. It is a moving prohibitive zone of 1000 metres ahead and 100 metres off the beam.

This applies with the marked zone on the chart, there is no set clearance astern. I would however use common sence in the rest of the area.
Thank you, the astern one was the one I was interested in
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Being a big boat man myself, bearing in mind that not all areas operate the same set up as the solent, if you pass astern-brilliant, if you pass ahead that's ok but what we really don't enjoy is when someone disappear under the bow. The min vis required is at 500m, so nearer than that and we don"t know whether you've altered down the side, made it across or broken down and about to get run over. RIBs tend not to be a problem as they've the speed to get out of the way, but yachties can find themselves struggling. Also bear in mind the real lack of manoeuvrability on a big boat. Other than that, if there's not much water, there's not much we can do about it, so we don't worry too much- the onus is on anything smaller to stay out of the way. If it doesn't then you have unfortunate events like the Hanne Knusten (or sister?) And WAFI incident in Cowes. ..
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I know the cruise ships in southampton when docked often have a large banner over the side stating for all boats to keep clear by xmetres, cant remember what the x was but did notice not alot of people paid any attention. LOL .... im just doing yacht master so will see if there is anything stated in the laws as apposed to harbour laws. if I find anything I will post.
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Looking for help to find regs on distances to remain clear of containers and large ships.
Am aware of 1000m in front and believed it was 100/500m on all other quarters, But due to memory I cant recal where I found this

Particularly aimed at restricted waters of Southampton at this time. Thanks in advance
You will find this info on your charts and also details in your Almanac
Usually high lighted with purple pink colour and an ! mark. Also local bye laws on speed and any restrictions such as Portsmouth harbour .
For Central Solent it also mentions clear channel vessels MPZ and escort towage for VLCCs page 107 of Reeds channel almanac.
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bearing in mind that not all areas operate the same set up as the solent,
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Ian, you can also look on this link below, notice to mariners. No 03 of 2014 refers to the precautionary area. Other useful notices are distance to fuel terminals No 07 2014, hovercraft trials (various but self cancelling post event) and the new yellow water sampling stations in Southampton No 57(T) 2013.

http://www.southamptonvts.co.uk/Yach...s_to_Mariners/

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Ian, you can also look on this link below, notice to mariners. No 03 of 2014 refers to the precautionary area. Other useful notices are distance to fuel terminals No 07 2014, hovercraft trials (various but self cancelling post event) and the new yellow water sampling stations in Southampton No 57(T) 2013.

Notices to Mariners - Southampton VTS - ABP Southampton

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Cheers Brad , I get the mariners notices as they occur by email. It was just astern clearance, may have read it somewhere on a commercial link during Cowes week or similar.
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