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08 March 2008, 00:09
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Choosing new boat
Hi everyone,
I've done searches on the forum to try and find out what people think about some boats I'm looking at getting. Found some info but still not decided.
I'm looking at a 585 ribcraft with a 130 honda, a 6 m humber destroyer with a 150 optimax or a 6.5m humber destroyer with a 90 optimax. Opinions please and sorry if this is same old, same old to you. I'm only a young fella about to blow all his money so kinda nervous.
Thanks
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08 March 2008, 00:33
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Country: UK - England
Town: Gloucestershire
Boat name: Osprey
Make: Osprey Vipermax
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Engine: E-tec 300 G2
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Originally Posted by Stig
Hi everyone,
I've done searches on the forum to try and find out what people think about some boats I'm looking at getting. Found some info but still not decided.
I'm looking at a 585 ribcraft with a 130 honda, a 6 m humber destroyer with a 150 optimax or a 6.5m humber destroyer with a 90 optimax. Opinions please and sorry if this is same old, same old to you. I'm only a young fella about to blow all his money so kinda nervous.
Thanks
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The only one of those I would be dubious about is the 6.5m Destroyer and thats only because I think it would be underpowered.
I have no experience of owning either boat but I have heard good things about both from various people with more experience than me.
Ribcraft do have a very good rep for quality moreso than Humber I believe.
I think I would personally go for the Humber as with that engine on the back would make it a really fun boat !
Chris
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08 March 2008, 00:54
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Country: UK - England
Town: Fareham
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First..Welcome to RIBnet!
Hulls:
Humbers and RIBcraft are both good hulls, so providing the hulls and tubes are sound then they get a thumbs up from me.
The size of the RIB is largly up to you. 5.85, 6.0 or 6.5? The larger is going to be generaly more seaworthy than the smaller ones, but for a given horspower will be slower and less economical than the smaller ones, so as I said....It depends on your application on what size you go for.
Engines:
The Honda is a fairly good engine but does suffer from cracked powerheads I believe (around the valves). Is also a little long in the tooth by todays engine choices, is heavy and I think it produces less than the stated 130 horses.
The 90/150 Opti is a cool engine and people on here love em. Check the service history on older ones, but one from say 2003 should give you many problems, just check all the stamps in the book. Don't forget that Optis are 2 stroke oil burners, but can be very economical with fuel.
As for the packages:
The RIBcraft with the Honda should be a fairly good match if a little stern heavy. A sea trial would be needed to see what she handled like. Provided the engine has a full service history, there's no reason why you should have a happy partnership with this one, should be economical too.
6m Humber with Opti 150, is going to be your highest performer as far as top speed and acceleration is concerned. Good match I would say.
The Humber 6.5m with 90 Opti. Good Hull, should safely see you though the rough stuff and get you home. With a 90 on the back! Humm, sell it and get a 150! Would be the best hull if you're looking at offshore cruising, but the lack of performance with the 90 wil mean you're pushing max revs all the time and costing yourself an arm and a leg in the amber go go juice.
Your choice?
I'm sure there'll be other opinions that will just as much confuse you
Good luck!
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08 March 2008, 10:10
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Thanks guys,
The Honda is about 5 years old but with only about 120 hours, I presume that this should mean that it's going to be okay for a while? The optis are new or nearly new. I want to use the boat for cruising, what I thouhgt was good about the ribcraft is that is has seating for 4 and a nice double console. The humbers only have a single jockey for the driver and less seats.
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08 March 2008, 10:37
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Country: UK - England
Town: Bristol
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha
Join Date: May 2006
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Ribcraft Ribcraft Ribcraft!! Build quality and everything else about them is superb, 585 is on my shopping list as next boat!!
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08 March 2008, 13:30
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Town: Douglas
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Hi Stig
Ribcraft and Humber are great hulls so your choice is probably going to be made on engines,seating etc,etc. From your descriptions I guess you are looking on Apollo Duck Ireland. Before you make your decision I would be tempted to look at Boats and Outboards For Sale , Apollo Duck UK and some of the other sites, there are a lot of similar boats currently available and you may find something better for your circa £17k !!!
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08 March 2008, 14:38
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Country: UK - England
Town: Towcester
Boat name: TBA
Make: Delta
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki 175
Join Date: Nov 2002
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avoid the 90Hp on 6.5m
Hello Stig
We had a Humber Ocean Pro 6.3m with Suzuki 115. but wished it was 140!
In big seas we would be on full throttle trying to climb some waves.
Build quality, electrics in particular were not very clever on my boat.
Tell us all when yiou do buy and then - see you on the water
Paul
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08 March 2008, 15:35
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I had a feeling that the 90 might be a bit underpowered. I'll also have a look on those other sites see what else I can find
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08 March 2008, 16:43
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Country: UK - England
Town: cookoo land
Boat name: tba
Make: ribcraft 595
Length: under 3m
Engine: Suzi 140
Join Date: Sep 2007
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Have to agree with Matt on the Ribcraft. Just be grateful you don't have to go through the pain of buying a new one!
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08 March 2008, 18:06
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Town: Wild West
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Hi Stig,
you asked,Ribcraft all the way mate! suprerior in my view,build quality
materials,handleing,not to mention re sale value.I dont know which part of the country you hail from but the guys at Yeovil are very helpfull and friendly,
gave me the guided tour,and I wasnt even buying my Ribcraft from them!
All the best whatever you get!!
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08 March 2008, 18:19
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Country: Ireland
Town: cork
Boat name: none
Make: HUMBER DESTROYER 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: 140HP sUZUKI
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Originally Posted by Cypman
Hi Stig
Ribcraft and Humber are great hulls so your choice is probably going to be made on engines,seating etc,etc. From your descriptions I guess you are looking on Apollo Duck Ireland. Before you make your decision I would be tempted to look at Boats and Outboards For Sale , Apollo Duck UK and some of the other sites, there are a lot of similar boats currently available and you may find something better for your circa £17k !!!
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I take it your looking at the blue 5.85 ribcraft with 130hp honda on appolloduck.ie. I know the boat, nice boat and i'd say well looked after as i happen to vaguely know the owner.
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08 March 2008, 18:43
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Yep that's the boat. Seems like it's the ribcraft just need to check it's not too stern heavy. Does anyone know if the transom on the ribcraft is wide enough to take an auxillary. I think the honda is quite a large engine block.
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08 March 2008, 20:04
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Country: Ireland
Town: cork
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Make: HUMBER DESTROYER 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: 140HP sUZUKI
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Originally Posted by Stig
Yep that's the boat. Seems like it's the ribcraft just need to check it's not too stern heavy. Does anyone know if the transom on the ribcraft is wide enough to take an auxillary. I think the honda is quite a large engine block.
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let us know how you get on and if you purchase.
Where will you be using this rib? Cork?
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08 March 2008, 21:58
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will do, probably be more using around clew bay, thanks for letting me know about the boat
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08 March 2008, 23:14
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Originally Posted by BassBoy
Have to agree with Matt on the Ribcraft. Just be grateful you don't have to go through the pain of buying a new one!
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There's no pain in buying New, just excitement all the way
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08 March 2008, 23:15
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I 've had a look at the other sites recommended and found a few interesting bits. Any opinions on Ribquest, Legend or Avon 620's
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09 March 2008, 07:29
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Country: UK - England
Town: cookoo land
Boat name: tba
Make: ribcraft 595
Length: under 3m
Engine: Suzi 140
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Hightower
Speak for yourself!
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11 March 2008, 19:43
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Country: Ireland
Town: Castlebar
Boat name: Clewless
Make: Valiant DR 490
Length: 4m +
Engine: 60 hp ETEC
MMSI: Awaitng one
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Hi Stig
By the sound of it you are based in Mayo. I have just purchased a new small rib my self. On the calm days we micght get together for a spin
TSM
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11 March 2008, 21:33
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Country: Ireland
Town: cork
Boat name: none
Make: HUMBER DESTROYER 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: 140HP sUZUKI
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did you purchase yet?
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11 March 2008, 22:54
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Country: Ireland
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Hi Stig,
I looked at importing, you need to add 1k€ to the selling price to cover fuel, ferries and food! Don't forget to give the lads at Redbay a call to see if anything interesting is coming back in PX. The exchange rate is well in your favour right now!
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