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Old 23 September 2004, 03:14   #21
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An Avon SR 4.7 or a Ribcraft 4.8 with a 70 hp yammie 2 stroke takes an awful lot of beating.
Rogue......the 4.8 ribcrafts transom is only rated up to 60 HP fitting a 70 would invalidate insurance and any warranties surely ?
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Old 23 September 2004, 03:33   #22
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Just saw Robin's trailer drawbar reply. I may be wrong now but I had that fitting on a previous Snipe trailer and it was used to tilt the trailer on a shallow slipway to make it easier to launch the RIB. I wouldn't try it unless the RIB was securely strapped to the trailer. Imagine ending up with your pride and joy stuck in your garage on no trailer!!
Ahhhhh so thats what it is.
I won't be using that then.....never have any trouble getting on or off the trailer. Doh. In which case

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Old 23 September 2004, 03:38   #23
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Rogue......the 4.8 ribcrafts transom is only rated up to 60 HP fitting a 70 would invalidate insurance and any warranties surely ?
Ribcraft actually made a 4.8 to a customer spec earlier this year and fitted a 75hp Evinrude Etec to it. The customer was insistent. As the boat is only rated to 60 hp he had to sign a disclaimer that released Ribcraft from any liability in respect of the over-sized engine (fair enuff). The chap was using the boat for skiing (water not downhill) and wakeboarding so I will have to assume he has managed to obtain insurance from somewhere.
I bet it goes well tho' It was at Ribex this year, briefly, did anyone have a go?
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Old 23 September 2004, 04:51   #24
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Rogue......the 4.8 ribcrafts transom is only rated up to 60 HP fitting a 70 would invalidate insurance and any warranties surely ?
I only put the Ribcraft down so as not to seem prjudiced to Avon. that settles it you should buy an Avon. To be honest if it's a good 60 Yammie 2 stroke it will still be cool sorry Hot!.
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Old 23 September 2004, 06:05   #25
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Thanks for the advice - I like the idea of a built in tank - is this available on the avon?? also the ribcraft has a useful array of seat options - can the avon match this? so many questions...

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Old 24 September 2004, 14:20   #26
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Thanks for the advice - I like the idea of a built in tank - is this available on the avon?? also the ribcraft has a useful array of seat options - can the avon match this? so many questions...

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Your'll find that not many sub 5 metre boats come as standard with underfloor fuel tanks, this is because there's not the space to accomodate big tanks under a 4 metre ribs deck and generally smaller boats run on smaller engines so dont require the vast amounts of fuel used by bigger boats, its also worth remembering that underfloor tanks dont have the advantage of easy access for maintenance.
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Old 24 September 2004, 14:31   #27
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Thanks for the advice - I like the idea of a built in tank - is this available on the avon?? also the ribcraft has a useful array of seat options - can the avon match this? so many questions...

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I don't think so, to be honest the Ribcraft is probably a much better set out boat and may even hold it's value better.

the guy that sold me my Avon told me that it could take more grief than I could I spent a glorious 18 months trying to prove him wrong ( ) On reflection though it was a volatile ride. I really am I sold it.

I do think that the seating options is limited in the sea riders and the only way you'd get a built in tank would be if you wuz sitting on it!
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Old 24 September 2004, 14:34   #28
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Of course there are benefits to under-deck tanks,

1. Greater Range
2. No fuel tanks cluttering up valuable deck space (remember its only a small boat!)
3. Convenience - fewer trips to the fuel bay

With an underdeck tank you will be able to stay out all day without worrying about your fuel levels or having to refill or attach different removable tanks.

(My 55l underdeck tank will easily get me through a day of on-water activites - skiing etc)

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Old 24 September 2004, 14:39   #29
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Have to agree with the Rogue on this issue, the ribcraft are much better fitted out and do hold there value a lot better than Avons, but buying a second hand searider as a first boat wouldn't be a bad thing.

I really dont think you could go wrong with either boat as a secodn hand purchase, the prices do piffer when you get to new prices though and of course as Rogues pointed out the 4.7 searider transom is rated up to 70 and the searider is a lot lighter than the ribcraft, so if speeds your thing the 70 on the searider is always going to be faster than a 60 on a ribcraft.

If like me you like to go long distances then have a stainless steel tank made to fit under the seat, this means you dont need to carry jerry cans or 5 gallon plastic tanks on the deck, some double jokeys can accomodate twin 24 litre plastic tanks or one big plastic tank.
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Old 24 September 2004, 14:46   #30
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Of course there are benefits to under-deck tanks,

1. Greater Range
2. No fuel tanks cluttering up valuable deck space (remember its only a small boat!)
3. Convenience - fewer trips to the fuel bay

With an underdeck tank you will be able to stay out all day without worrying about your fuel levels or having to refill or attach different removable tanks.

(My 55l underdeck tank will easily get me through a day of on-water activites - skiing etc)

Robert (all in my opinion as always )
Again another point of view, under floor tanks obviously have advantages as well as Roberts now pointed out, but how much extra on top of the basic price does an underfloor tank cost ??? add that to the boat, trailer and engine package + of coures A frame, lights and your into lots of money and this is all before you go shopping for electronic toys

Manufacturers dont fit underfloor tanks in small boats as a standard feature becuase it boosts the basic price up and small boat owners dont want that !!!
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