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Old 04 June 2013, 15:56   #31
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looking at this one: Avon Searider SR4 with Yamaha 50hp Outboard | eBay

THe only thing that puts me off is that it is manual start and tilt
I had a preference for manual start and manual trim when looking for my SR4. No electrics mean less to go wrong.
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Old 04 June 2013, 16:35   #32
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Theres a world to enjoy out there .. and a responsible pint or dram never hurt anyone,when of the age, but the big blue yonder with a bit of sun and some fun will be a memory to last for years to come, as I like to say

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Old 05 June 2013, 09:54   #33
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Other thoguht if you are on a budget - manual start - worst that happens is you end up looking like Charles Atlas (or his 2013 counterpart), put up with the manua ltrim for a bit & keep your eye on the bits piles for a PT unit.

With a 50 on a SR there's an argument that if you set it reasonably you will get it to do most of what you need - I had a 25 on mine, and varied the tilt pin posiion depending on wheher I was cruising in flat, cruising in waves or acting as a rescue / marshall boat. a 50 will have more than enough grunt to not worry about that! (chine walking aside!)

You can then save & either retro - fit a PT unit or PX the engine for one with it fitted.

How are you mechanically & electrically? - fitting a PT isn't difficult, (especially a single ram type - if that's what the engine has- but the wiring usually seems to confuse!
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Other thoguht if you are on a budget - manual start - worst that happens is you end up looking like Charles Atlas (or his 2013 counterpart), put up with the manua ltrim for a bit & keep your eye on the bits piles for a PT unit.

With a 50 on a SR there's an argument that if you set it reasonably you will get it to do most of what you need - I had a 25 on mine, and varied the tilt pin posiion depending on wheher I was cruising in flat, cruising in waves or acting as a rescue / marshall boat. a 50 will have more than enough grunt to not worry about that! (chine walking aside!)

You can then save & either retro - fit a PT unit or PX the engine for one with it fitted.

How are you mechanically & electrically? - fitting a PT isn't difficult, (especially a single ram type - if that's what the engine has- but the wiring usually seems to confuse!
I think I will eng up buying an electric start, PTT anyway because to be honest I have had enough of pull start and triming the engine by hand!
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Hello!

I am using an old SR4 with jockey seat as my daily workboat driving it in the port of Stockholm.
Due to all the passengerboats and the wake they make it is like beeing at sea a windy day.
I have a Suzuki dt 50 twostroke on the back with a 17" cupped steel prop. and the engine raised 2" on the transom and centerd.
Safe cruising speed is ca. 30 knots over 34 knots chine walking is allways near at hand, w.o.t. 6000 rpm ( 500 rpm over rev.) gives 39-40 knots and can be a near death experience.
I could easely change to a 18" prop. but it would not be to any use since the speed can not be handeld by a SR 4.
So I would say 40 hp and PT on a SR 4 is ideal if one rides most of the time alone in the boat.
My SR 4 is from 1976 I have understood and it has the original tubes!
Them SR-s are for shure high quality things and they rides trough the wakes like a dream when one has lerned to drive them correctly.
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Hello!

I am using an old SR4 with jockey seat as my daily workboat driving it in the port of Stockholm.
Due to all the passengerboats and the wake they make it is like beeing at sea a windy day.
I have a Suzuki dt 50 twostroke on the back with a 17" cupped steel prop. and the engine raised 2" on the transom and centerd.
Safe cruising speed is ca. 30 knots over 34 knots chine walking is allways near at hand, w.o.t. 6000 rpm ( 500 rpm over rev.) gives 39-40 knots and can be a near death experience.
I could easely change to a 18" prop. but it would not be to any use since the speed can not be handeld by a SR 4.
So I would say 40 hp and PT on a SR 4 is ideal if one rides most of the time alone in the boat.
My SR 4 is from 1976 I have understood and it has the original tubes!
Them SR-s are for shure high quality things and they rides trough the wakes like a dream when one has lerned to drive them correctly.
Thanks very much for your response. So 50hp is obviously just over kill?

When you say it is a near death experience WOT do you mean it is scary or actually dangerous?

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Mattias, Welcome!

Henry - that's where human perception comes into play! Certainly the former.
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Thanks very much for your response. So 50hp is obviously just over kill?

When you say it is a near death experience WOT do you mean it is scary or actually dangerous?

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Dangerous if you are not used it and respond quickly and correct.
At 40 knots my SR 4 will throw you out of the boat in 5 seconds if one is not careful enough.
At 30 knots one can go through realy big wakes and the boat only bounces from side to side a couple of times but it will not start chine walking.
I like the old 50 hp Suzuki 2 cyl. as it is low weight ca 75-80 kilos and long stroked for lots of torque but as for all few cyl. twostroke engines it allmost jumps of the transom at idle.
But on the other hand I am not in for trolling so bad idling ar not a problem to me.
I think it is good with a little extra power as it helps to get the boat up of the water quickly even with a quite agressive prop.
And I do not think a fourstroke engine would be a good choice since the weight gained can ruin the balance of a little boat as the SR 4, may be some one who has tried this can leave a comment.
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Dangerous if you are not used it and respond quickly and correct.
At 40 knots my SR 4 will throw you out of the boat in 5 seconds if one is not careful enough.
At 30 knots one can go through realy big wakes and the boat only bounces from side to side a couple of times but it will not start chine walking.
I like the old 50 hp Suzuki 2 cyl. as it is low weight ca 75-80 kilos and long stroked for lots of torque but as for all few cyl. twostroke engines it allmost jumps of the transom at idle.
But on the other hand I am not in for trolling so bad idling ar not a problem to me.
I think it is good with a little extra power as it helps to get the boat up of the water quickly even with a quite agressive prop.
And I do not think a fourstroke engine would be a good choice since the weight gained can ruin the balance of a little boat as the SR 4, may be some one who has tried this can leave a comment.
/Mattias
I think I could be able to afford an etec, do you think a 40hp etec would be good? It is just for me being young fuel consumption is a big factor as well as the dad complaining about the noise when we are trolling for mackerel

Also the etecs are meant to be very reliable? Only thing that worries me is that if something goes wrong with the fuel injection that is your money handed over like a bunch of flowers
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I think it would be a great engine if it has been taken care of and have had regular service, all used outboards are a bit of gamble if you ask me.
But as I use to say "skilled people has more luck than others" so search the web and find all info you can get on that engine.
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