Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 
Old 03 September 2007, 05:01   #1
Member
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Ayrshire
Boat name: Raven
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 suzuki
MMSI: 235040525
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 653
Changing the control

I intend changing the suzuki (Morse) control for something better for the following reasons;

1)the boat can't maintain a constant speed because the lever won't hold a setting, boat just gets slower. The adjusting screw is all the way in and it still does it.

2)I don't like the lack of a nuetral lock,I know a lot of people don't agree, but I think it's dangerous.

3)Removing the chance of going straight from forward to reverse by someone learning and threatening the gearbox.

4)I want the lever to be on the right hand side of the control box,this would but the lever,trim switch in the hand the way the manufacturer intended.



Has anyone changed a morse type control for something better,where there any problems doing it?. Or is it straight forward.
__________________

__________________
.
IBWET is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03 September 2007, 05:36   #2
Member
 
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
MMSI: 42
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 6,556
agree with 2 and 3 entirely

Yeah we have swopped out a throttle control from an old Johnsohn to a new Tohatsu (these really are very nice Throttles) providing your cable ends and the new controls are the same is very easy.

aftermarket controls can be bought from teleflex and some other manufacturers but they often don't feature a trim switch. The Standard control cabling is I believe 33c (could be wrong and I suspect we'll soon find out ) but that may not be what is used by the Suzuki or Tohatsu.

Your suzuli and Tohatsu dealer could confirm that, you could also consider a new suzuki control cos I don't think outboard controls normally come without an interlock,

Did you say that the control is central mounted and if it is what make is it.
__________________

__________________
Here it comes again, I don't stand a chance
Soul possession, Got me in a trance
Pullin' me back to you - Deja Voodoo
Rogue Wave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03 September 2007, 06:49   #3
Member
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Ayrshire
Boat name: Raven
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 suzuki
MMSI: 235040525
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 653
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogue Wave View Post
agree with 2 and 3 entirely

Yeah we have swopped out a throttle control from an old Johnsohn to a new Tohatsu (these really are very nice Throttles) providing your cable ends and the new controls are the same is very easy.

aftermarket controls can be bought from teleflex and some other manufacturers but they often don't feature a trim switch. The Standard control cabling is I believe 33c (could be wrong and I suspect we'll soon find out ) but that may not be what is used by the Suzuki or Tohatsu.

Your suzuli and Tohatsu dealer could confirm that, you could also consider a new suzuki control cos I don't think outboard controls normally come without an interlock,

Did you say that the control is central mounted and if it is what make is it.
The control is standard suz( I think it's morse..),it has trim and tilt but no lock and is centrally mounted.

I've noticed that 33c is mentioned quite a lot on sites.

What do you think of this one?

http://www.aqua-marineint.com/conten...&ProductId=307
__________________
.
IBWET is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03 September 2007, 08:12   #4
Member
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Make: HumberOceanOffshore
Length: 8m +
Engine: Volvo KAD300/DPX
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 4,962
Erm....kill switch?
__________________
JW.
jwalker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03 September 2007, 08:31   #5
Member
 
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
MMSI: 42
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 6,556
It looks OK You can fit a discrete kill switch But WJ is most correct!
__________________
Here it comes again, I don't stand a chance
Soul possession, Got me in a trance
Pullin' me back to you - Deja Voodoo
Rogue Wave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03 September 2007, 08:57   #6
Member
 
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
What about a nice Gaffrig???
__________________
codprawn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04 September 2007, 18:40   #7
Member
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Ayrshire
Boat name: Raven
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 suzuki
MMSI: 235040525
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 653
Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn View Post
What about a nice Gaffrig???
Getting prices,thanks.

Also looking at livorsi controls,they seem pretty similar.

My only concern and I'll have to clear it up before parting with the readies,is there a lock in nuetral, they all talk about non starting of engines if not in nuetral,but not a lock.

I'm also a little concerned about fitting, prob end up going very fast backwards and very slow forwards..
__________________
.
IBWET is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05 September 2007, 06:03   #8
Member
 
Cookee's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Salcombe, Devon, UK
Boat name: BananaShark
Make: BananaShark
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2xYanmar 260 diesels
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,225
Quote:
Originally Posted by IBWET View Post
Getting prices,thanks.

Also looking at livorsi controls,they seem pretty similar.
I would pick Livorsi over Gaffrig since they "split up". Two lever controls get over some of the issues - Yamaha make very good kll switches that can be mounted separately - we use them on the race boat and elsewhere.
__________________
Cookee
Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
Cookee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06 September 2007, 13:34   #9
Member
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 380
IBWET,

I fitted a Morse SL3 sidemount unit to my RC. Fits on the console really well and is very comfortable to use - no creeping etc and it's got interlock and start-in-gear protection, trim switch etc

It does need a seperate start switch and kill switch but it meant I could put them where was convenient rather than being forced to have them on the throttle control.

I'll give you a shout if I'm down at the weekend and you can have a look if you like.


Cheers,
Al.
__________________
al40 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06 September 2007, 13:37   #10
Member
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 380
In fact here is a link to it

http://www.marinescene.co.uk/product...-mount-control

(doesn't mention trim switch - I got Marinescene to get me one in specially with trim switch so they may have added it to their catalogue)
__________________

__________________
al40 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:21.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.