Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 
Old 16 October 2005, 15:53   #11
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,841
Quote:
Originally Posted by tcwozere
I thought East Cowes did that to stop someone nicking the cleat Tim..
Down here they'd nick the chain!
__________________

__________________
Mollers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 October 2005, 15:55   #12
Member
 
Hugh Jardon's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Reading, Hants
Boat name: Juicy
Make: Sealine F43
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2 x 370hp
MMSI: TBC
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,882
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollulnan
Down here they'd nick the chain!
down there they would probably eat the chain!
__________________

__________________
Hugh Jardon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 October 2005, 16:24   #13
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Brittany/Portsmouth
Boat name: Merlin
Make: Solent 6.5
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200
MMSI: soon !
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 5,451
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ribald
Only thought that occurs about chaining up in a marina - if the staff need to move your boat in a hurry( e.g. an adjacent fire or somesuch) they won't be able to or won't bother to.
Good point Pete.

Us
__________________
Happy New Resolutions!!! : RIBbing for the craic!!!
The Jackeens is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17 October 2005, 03:57   #14
Member
 
Hugh Jardon's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Reading, Hants
Boat name: Juicy
Make: Sealine F43
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2 x 370hp
MMSI: TBC
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,882
Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
Those chains have come down a lot lately - you can pick them up for as little as £10 for 1.5m without a lock but you have to be very carefull - lot of cheap copies out there!!!
codders can you point me in the direction of some insurance approved chains like you have listed as i need some

cheers
__________________
Hugh Jardon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17 October 2005, 07:56   #15
Member
 
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
http://www.oxprod.com/

To see the specs

http://www.mandp.co.uk/home.aspx

They only seems to do the chains WITH padlocks now - the cheapest is about £10 but I don't think it's approved - the cheapest approved one they do is about
£20 - still not bad!!!

I use them quite a bit - have 2 for my Landrover - 1 around the steering wheel/pedals and the other through the bumper around a lampost or similar!!!

They serve 3 different purposes - 1 as an anti theft measure - 2 as a message to say you are a bit nuts - 3 if they don't get the first 2!!!!

Will use them on my trailer as well as the silly wheel clamp I had to buy for the insurance - would rather the chain through a lampost any day!!!

As a TEST I used a massive Record bolt cropper on the chain - oneof the biggest they do - laid one handle down on the floor so all the leverage I could get - barely marked the chain!!! No way would you get that sort of leverage in real conditions!!!
__________________
codprawn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17 October 2005, 09:24   #16
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: nr Lymington
Boat name: JU-JU
Make: Halmatic PAC22
Length: 6m +
Engine: 140.5 Mermaid
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,400
Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
.....As a TEST I used a massive Record bolt cropper on the chain - oneof the biggest they do - laid one handle down on the floor so all the leverage I could get - barely marked the chain!!! No way would you get that sort of leverage in real conditions!!!
Not a £10 chain or for that matter a £20 there is very little on the market below £60 that is worth buying and putting one arm on the floor is standard procedure for normal people using bolt corps With chains you defiantly have to go for the more expensive ones that are PACT and Thatcham approved although even that isnít a guarantee Des
__________________
Scary Des is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17 October 2005, 09:48   #17
Member
 
Hugh Jardon's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Reading, Hants
Boat name: Juicy
Make: Sealine F43
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2 x 370hp
MMSI: TBC
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,882
Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
http://www.oxprod.com/

To see the specs

http://www.mandp.co.uk/home.aspx

They only seems to do the chains WITH padlocks now - the cheapest is about £10 but I don't think it's approved - the cheapest approved one they do is about
£20 - still not bad!!!

I use them quite a bit - have 2 for my Landrover - 1 around the steering wheel/pedals and the other through the bumper around a lampost or similar!!!

They serve 3 different purposes - 1 as an anti theft measure - 2 as a message to say you are a bit nuts - 3 if they don't get the first 2!!!!

Will use them on my trailer as well as the silly wheel clamp I had to buy for the insurance - would rather the chain through a lampost any day!!!

As a TEST I used a massive Record bolt cropper on the chain - oneof the biggest they do - laid one handle down on the floor so all the leverage I could get - barely marked the chain!!! No way would you get that sort of leverage in real conditions!!!
mmmmm

trouble is that insurance approved chains are very expensive, forget bolt croppers and try a hacksaw on the chain, you might find it goes thru like butter unless it is a decent one

so the 1.5 m approved chains for £10 was a bit misleading then i think codders,
__________________
Hugh Jardon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17 October 2005, 10:32   #18
Member
 
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scary Des
Not a £10 chain or for that matter a £20 there is very little on the market below £60 that is worth buying and putting one arm on the floor is standard procedure for normal people using bolt corps With chains you defiantly have to go for the more expensive ones that are PACT and Thatcham approved although even that isnít a guarantee Des
How exactly are you go to be able to wield a 5' long set of bolt croppers inside a Land Rover??? How are you supposed to put one handle on the floor and then push down on it???

The same goes for when I tie up to a lamp post - the chain is 2' in the air - I was on about lying the bolt cropper on the floor on it's side then pushing down on it with all your weight!!!

As to only chains over £60 - I have personally tested several of these things - some the bolt croppers went through like butter - others were unmarked - I have NOT tried a hacksaw - YET - but the unmarked ones are obviously hardened anyway!!!

If you look at Oxford's site you will see the cheapest security app chain is the Hardcore which M+P sell for £19.99 WITH a padlock - don't think it takes a genius to work out that chains without a padlock are cheaper!!!
__________________
codprawn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17 October 2005, 10:34   #19
Member
 
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh Jardon
mmmmm

trouble is that insurance approved chains are very expensive, forget bolt croppers and try a hacksaw on the chain, you might find it goes thru like butter unless it is a decent one

so the 1.5 m approved chains for £10 was a bit misleading then i think codders,
Last reply was aimed at you as well......

Misleading - think not!!! £19.99 WITH padlock!! They used to sell the chains on their own!!!
__________________
codprawn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17 October 2005, 10:52   #20
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: nr Lymington
Boat name: JU-JU
Make: Halmatic PAC22
Length: 6m +
Engine: 140.5 Mermaid
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,400
Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
How exactly are you go to be able to wield a 5' long set of bolt croppers inside a Land Rover??? How are you supposed to put one handle on the floor and then push down on it???
You put one arm against the A post and lift up. Before you start, this is something I do for a living in the real world not my bedroom.

Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
The same goes for when I tie up to a lamp post - the chain is 2' in the air - I was on about lying the bolt cropper on the floor on it's side then pushing down on it with all your weight!!!
I'm 6' and 16.5 stone, Trust me, it's easy

Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
If you look at Oxford's site you will see the cheapest security app chain is the Hardcore which M+P sell for £19.99 WITH a padlock - don't think it takes a genius to work out that chains without a padlock are cheaper!!!
Not only have I been paid to test most chains on the market I have tested the Oxford products and know how much security you get from their entry level chains Buy the £60 ones if you want Security Des
__________________

__________________
Scary Des is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 18:45.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.