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Old 20 March 2004, 13:44   #11
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Hi Cookee
from what i can make out, you want to build a leisure version of
Bannana shark and market it, so under the RCD you must submit all plans and build spec, the boat is subjected to various test
stability and so on the list is endless, once you pass all of these you can go into production because your boat is CE marked to probably Cat c so you can sell your boat to any leisure users out there, as Paul stated the RYA negotiated a exemption from coding, all RYA training centres can only opereate in a specific area for me its the Solent, for Paul it is POOLE area meaning i cant do the intermediate from Cowes to Poole.only in my area
if i want to build a boat for commercial purposes then it must be inspected to MCGA standards, so you can have one boat but two
classifications work boats are not used by the RYA because we teach the leisure market you could build your boat and one version of it would have to comply with RCD and the other version would have to comply with the MCGA rules and regulations for commercial workboats (stricter) it is a minefield
and starts going fuzzy but contact ken and he will put you right
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Old 21 March 2004, 13:10   #12
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Ok then - we've done some research (well ok Kevin found it!)

chapter one, article one, paragraph two, taken from

RECREATIONAL CRAFT DIRECTIVE AND
COMMENTS TO THE DIRECTIVE COMBINED
A Guide to the Application of Directive 94/25/EC of the 16 June 1994 on the
Approximation of the Laws, Procedures and Administrative Provisions of the Member
States and EEA States relating to Recreational Craft.


Reads as follows

Paragraph 2 defines the types of recreational craft covered.
These boats are defined, not by their type or means of propulsion, but:
by their hull length of 2.5 to 24 m, and in particular
by their intended use for sports and leisure purposes.
It is specified that chartered, i.e. hired, recreational craft are covered by the Directive, as are
recreational craft used for recreational boating training. In both cases, the activity is not a
commercial passenger transport activity but one for sports or leisure purposes.

Looking forward to everyones thoughts on the above!
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Old 21 March 2004, 13:16   #13
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yep you've got it
so build your boat get it inspected,ce marked start selling them after we have test driven it, make some money
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Old 22 March 2004, 05:11   #14
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Tim,
Your answer makes no sense.
Please REREAD your post and Cookees, then comment.
As an aside, how do the RYA broker an exemption to the EU law?
Or is this document wrong? or should we ALL just ignore it?
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Or is this document wrong? or should we ALL just ignore it?

Everyone else in United States of Europe will

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cookee wants to build a leisure version of banana shark and market it, to do this he will have his boat inspected to gain rcd
ce certificate. once he has obtained this he can build the boats
and sell them. what part is not making sense.
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the contradiction between you saying training boats are exempt and the guide saying they are not.
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teach using ribs that are recreational craft directive ce approved
eg i buy a rib from a builder of ribs, for him to sell these boats they must comply with rcd for their stated purpose ie recreational use
the RYA is the governing body, of Sailing,Motorcruising, Powerboating,and so on we teach to the leisure/recreational market, and the post from Cookee explains it. the RYA
have negotiated a exemption from commercial licensing as explained by Paul Glatzel equal to MCGA code 6, 3 miles from a NPD AND 3 MILES OFFSHORE we are not excempt from the rules
re RCD but from commercial workboats because we operate within a specific area i could not build a rib from scratch
use it to teach and then sell it on. It would not pass the RYA inspection for the training school
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OK easy yes or no answers,

do you say the training school boats exempt from RCD/CE comliance?
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no!
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