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Old 15 January 2003, 14:33   #161
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IMHO you only need to worry about CE marking in the event of an Insurance claim. The insurance companies couldn't give a damn when you take out a policy, after all it is up to the policyholder to ensure that the boat complies. The problem arises when the Insurance Co need an excuse not to pay out.

There was an incident in Poole a year or so ago involving a large claim for personal injury in a boat. The first thing the Ins Co asked to see were the CE certificate and the manufacturers max hp reccomendations.

Unfortunately, in law ignorance is not an excuse.

The actual policing of the rcd is handled by the local trading standards officer, I wonder how much knowledge they have?
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Old 15 January 2003, 14:38   #162
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IMHO you only need to worry about CE marking in the event of an Insurance claim.
But I think they should also excercise due diligence in making sure your boat is CE certified and cat b or c or what have you.

I do not dispute what you say Dirk but if we assume that the insurance wants you to have a CE mark then what happens in cae you had an older boat built in 1980s without a CE mark. Isn't that boat covered in case of an accident?? Just a question.
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Old 15 January 2003, 14:41   #163
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My point exactly.

The insurance companies are happy if we all over insure as they have more money swilling about for there eventual payout.

Thats when thay will have a good close look into the value of you vessel and hp and CE marking.Thay dont want to loose all the buisness they already got so they keep quite about it.Untill the day you make a claim.Its your responsibility to make sure your boat is used for its intended purpose and it complies with all the rules.

They then become real knoledgable on the subject.
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Old 15 January 2003, 14:43   #164
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Manos In come your surveyors on this one,check any reports for small print.You may find they have limited your Range and use?
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Old 15 January 2003, 14:46   #165
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This is exactly the point. The navigational limits are ste. There is nothing in the small print.
I use to work for a P&I club (doing cargo calims when I was younger and I know the legal staff). So had a look and there is no mention anywhere about CE certificate or markings.
Is all a bit confusing. Better to have the insurance because you have to and pray not to have an accident LOLOL
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You will find out when you renew you policies and have to get the surveys done.
Its a problem in my view,all these supposed proffesionals making big bucks out of us boat owners,Thats the way its gone..

Im of the belief they are in the main usually frustrated ex boat owners who get sea sick and have no boat any more, therfore they see us as easy pickings
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The CE regs came into force in june 98, craft built and placed on the market prior to that date don't have to conform.

In simple terms you could buy a 21 sportsboat with twin 200hp outboards in May of that year, but a month later it would only be available with a single.

You can of course insure an old boat, anything built by a reputable company would be known to the insurance company, obscure makes and homebuilt would probably require some sort of survey.

Isn't there a Boat Safety Scheme for craft over 4 years old that want to use the UK inland waterways. Maybe there is something similar for Coastal craft.
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Old 15 January 2003, 15:02   #168
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Crazyhorse (or should I say "secret squirrell") did I read correctly somewhere that your hull is being built in Canada? and if so why, is the labour cheeper there? who is the designer of the hull? when will it be finnished? is it coming back to the UK?
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jon thanks for your interest.

The boat will be here in about 8 months time.The build in Canada has nothing to do with costs as its real expensive.Its to do with Quality.
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Isn't there a Boat Safety Scheme for craft over 4 years old that want to use the UK inland waterways. Maybe there is something similar for Coastal craft.
I suppose so. I'll ask around
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