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Old 15 January 2003, 13:45   #151
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I'm sure Steve Baker told me that his hull used on the phantom evolution 7.5 metre has a max ce rating of about 225hp in that application!
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Old 15 January 2003, 13:48   #152
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Just done my calculations

Well guys the FALCON is OK then

i.e.
with what you said I assumed LOA end of pontoons to bow (not hull length) and beam total beam (not inside beam).

7 mtrs x 2.5 x 16 - 67 = 213KW

I have a 200 BHP so I can go up to 250 BHP if I wanted to.
However, the manufacturer suggests max 200 bhp and they say the boat also flies (achieving speeds of 90 kms/hour with 130 BHP)
The boat has CE, ISO, BIASA, SAMSA, DOT and MA-16 certificates
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Old 15 January 2003, 13:53   #153
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Thanks for the interest in me Jon,I will take it as a compliment.

As I said earlier im just a normal guy,who has strong beliefs with regardes to ribs .As the way I see it they are the boats of the future.

You dont need anything more than that.I am known to a few and hope this will increase in the future.

You will see my boat in the press soon.You can then tell me what you think?

Im sure if you think its got any foults you will point them out.I do hope you also point out any things you like too.

It sure is no racer just the ideal cruiser for me and my family anyway.

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Old 15 January 2003, 13:59   #154
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HP limits

JK, I'm hurt. This is not as you put it another of my wind ups.

I am simply contributing to the forum with what I believe to be a useful piece of info.

The formula that I have given is supposedly for Outboard powered craft, drawn up by some fool in Brussels. This apparently is fact!

Rather than have a go at me I suggest that you make some enquiries of your own, possibly ask the RYA who I believe are a Notified Body for the Recreational Craft Directive.

The person who gave me the info is a Boatbuilder, who's boats comply with the directive. He says that he went to numerous courses, seminars etc, and invested a considerable amount of time and money. He also employed a Notified Body to do the necessary tests for his boats to pass the tests. He did not do this alone, he shared the expense of testing etc with a well known Rib manufacturer who also works to these rules and regulations.

He does say that this was a couple of months prior to the regulations coming into force in 1998, but he has no reason to doubt their current validity.

He is also of the opinion that a large majority of boats being built are not conforming to the rules.

Awaiting your prompt reply

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Old 15 January 2003, 14:02   #155
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I wouldn't criticise your boat, I know very little about rib's so to make a judgement would be foolish, I'm sure I would be torn appart (again)
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Old 15 January 2003, 14:08   #156
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Dirk you will have your day im sure.

Its good for me as it can help make changes I maybe would not of done as Im wanting to always building in exess on every front.

eg n8 fuel tanks 2x 80 gals

The boat is alloy anyway.
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Old 15 January 2003, 14:17   #157
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Im of the belief that all people and boats have something valuble to offer.

The Art of the game is to pick which people and which bits of the boats.

Thats the difficult bit.
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Old 15 January 2003, 14:19   #158
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Old 15 January 2003, 14:25   #159
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Boat Insurance

I am not an expert on boat insurance but when I insured my various boats from time to time the insurer always asks LOA, BHP, year of built etc etc and navigating limits that you want them to cover you. The premium fluctuates accordingly.
Also they have some requirements i.e. when I wanted to take a 48 ft cruiser to Greece from the UK I was quoted a relative large premium and also I was only covered with the proviso that two of the people onboard had ICCs and one had a marine engineers certificate also had to produce copies of their certificates before cover.
Similar thing happened when I sailed a 38 ft catamaran from Marseille to Greece three years ago.
However, no one asked me for the CE or any other type of certificate for the boat.
Further, my RIB which I have in Greece is British registered and is covered by a German insurer and Lloyd's underwriters again the boat is covered (fully comp) for East Med ex war zones but without navigational limits and the premium is 380 Euros/year. No CE or other type of certificate was requested.
The question is whether this CE certification is a con or not since no one seem to give any bit of notice to it.
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Old 15 January 2003, 14:32   #160
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That email that I sent t MCA asking for a clear definition eg actual limits of cat C boats and B boats,

I never got a responce too?.

Think I will chase it up and make there day.
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