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Old 11 October 2003, 17:13   #1
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Buying Scorpion, Sport Rib or Boomeranger???

Hi! We are going to start with ribcharteing. the boat will be approxemately 8.5m. with 2x250hp or more. there will be 14 seats. We have looked at and mailed Sport Ribs, Scorpion and the finich Boomeranger. Check out www.f1re.com. They say they have a Boomeranger which is 7 m. and makes 70 knots with one 225hp engine?
I need help to pick the right boat, anyone here who could pleace help a guy from Norway? Yours Sincerely Martin
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Old 11 October 2003, 19:13   #2
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I own a Scorpion and I really am inpressed by Sportrib, but I don't think either of these boats are made for People carrying (in Bulk). I have been most impressed by a Gemini 8,5 metre which has been rigged for 14 people it's being run by a company called blue Ocean and was supplied by www.theribshop.com

Check out the Gemini Website as they may have a picture of it.


Avon Delta and Ribcraft are also worth a look,
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Old 11 October 2003, 19:48   #3
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Hej Martin;

Slå mig en signal så kan jag hjälpa dig med råd och info.
Har erfarenhet av både rafting från både Norge och Sverige.

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Old 12 October 2003, 04:18   #4
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It might be a good idea to say the intended use for your boat.
Are the 14 people (plus crew??) all to be seated?
Why twin outboards?
It SOUNDS like you might want a commercial spec. boat?????
In which case you should also start looking at some other manufacturers as well. Ocean Dynamics/Delta/Rayglass etc. as well as considering alternative power sources and drives (diesel, waterjets for example).
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Old 12 October 2003, 04:40   #5
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Hi, and thank you very much to all of you guys for all the different thougts! I can tell that you think that the Scorpion is not a real comercial rib. I have looked at those hevier ribs, but they are heavy and get only 52 knots with twin 250 and 8.2 meters (Osprey).
Take a look at www.actionboat.dk , they hav a Scorpion 8.5 with twin 250, 12 jockey seats pluss crew! They have the world record Oslo - Cobenhagen, and top speed 63 knots.
Concerning my option for twin engines; i think it is more responsible to have two engines for safety when i go out with a boat full of passengers, pluss i have fjord to pass before i can get us out in the open, and there it is nice to go fast.
Have anyone any knowledge about Boomeranger (www.f1re.com)?
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Old 12 October 2003, 05:04   #6
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Hi Fjordrafting

Scorpion are superb RIBs but I don't think they produce what you could call a commercial RIB.

Check out this site and take a look at their RIB:

http://www.northcoast-marine-adventures.co.uk/

Mike Garside and Brian Elliott will tell you just what a superb commercial rib it is.

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Old 12 October 2003, 06:13   #7
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This is a 14 seater Rapier - you can find them here.
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Old 12 October 2003, 06:59   #8
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Twin 250 on a 8,2m Osprey makes 58-60 knots depending on brand of engines and offcourse equipment, not 52 knots.
And a 8,2m Osprey Falcon has a beam that is 2,9m wich makes a lot of space and stability.
After experience of rafting i can say that people can`t notice the difference between 50 and 60 knots, all people that comes into a rib for the first time finds it cool allready in 35 knots when you start to jump in the waves.

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Old 12 October 2003, 07:38   #9
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What do you presently charter, what experience do you have ?
Are these speeds that you are quoting with 12 people up. I somehow doubt it

Id have to agree with Petrov's last comments about vigins and speed
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Old 12 October 2003, 09:46   #10
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No, it`s not with 12 people up, it`s topspeed with around 400 lit fuel and 2 persons.
Big console and seatings for 6 people.
Last Osprey 8,2m with 2 X 200 HPDI made 54,6 knots with 2 people and 200 lit fuel.
With 5 people and around 500 lit fuel and some bags (around 150kg i had 50,1 knots on GPS, only lost 4,5 knots wich i find pretty good.
I think it`s very hard to find a boat that can have a topspeed around 60 with 14 people, we have 2 Tornado here in Stockholm with twin 300 Mercury, but they have a lot of problems with these engines on a boat that gets very heavy with 12 people.
My experience with charter is that we have 4 boats doing charter in Stockholm archipelago.
One Osprey Falcon 9,6m with 2 x 212 Steyr turbo diesels with seatings for 12 people.
3 Osprey Viper 7m with single Mercury 225hp Optimax, these boats do around 49 knots with seatings for 7 people and around 43-44 knots with all people.
Customers often find it more fun to rent 2 ribs with 6 people each instead of one boat with 12 people, they like to film, take pics etc, the boats are playing with each other and 40 knots on 7m boat feels faster than 50 knots on bigger boat.
So a recomendation, there is so much more things to do with 2 small boats than one big.
We have for an example paintball from the boats and than we find a small island in the archipelago, leave some people on one side and the rest on the other side and in the end there is a winner when they been taking the island people loves this!!!!
We have come to a point in Stockholm were a lot of companies has been ribing and it`s not fun anymore to just drive for 2 hours.
So we have taking rafting concept even futher.

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