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Old 25 March 2011, 04:57   #11
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Thank you all so much, I nerver expected to get so much good advice so quickly, must be a huge number of users on this forum !!

With regard to the courses the VHF sounds like a must and although I have done my powerboat 1 and 2 a refresher might be an option.

As our RIB is not huge we have no room for an Aux but we bought from new and it is serviced every year so all good on that front.

Many thanks for the PAN PAN advice, I always thought that was a type of Mayday call only to be used in emergencies but it seems to be more commonly used than I thought.

I think that sometimes us less experienced RIBers see coastguards and Harbour Masters as figures of authority and therefore slightly unapproachable, and this makes us a bit dubious of contacting them, however I am suddenly realising that they are there to help and on the couple of occasions I have had dealings with them they are more than happy to assist.

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Old 25 March 2011, 05:19   #12
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Hi, Welcome to Ribnet

The other thing with an aux - make sure it runs once in a while!

If you are launching from a marina you can use it to get from slip / berth to the entrance, or if you stop for a picnic lunch somewhere can run it for 20 mins as you eat your sarnies to hold position. Either way, it is better to find out that it's got the huff in a scenario like that than when you really need it after it sitting doing nothing on your transom for a year!

The other option as it looks like you change boat reasonably frequently (and I say this at risk of opening one of the favourite ribnet worm cans) is next time go for twins. If you are running a 6-ish M rib twin 60s will get you back on the plane (slowly, but a LOT faster than a 4 or 6Hp screaming it's bits off) should one fail. Do a search for "twin vs single" or phrases to that effect, as there is a lot of discussion here on that subject.


The VHF thing will all become clear on the course.
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Old 25 March 2011, 05:25   #13
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The RNLI will not charge salvage, and anyways if your boat needs to be recovered it's more than likely the insurance will pay for it.

If offered line by RNLI accept it, don't agrue...

before accepting a tow from 3rd party before accepting;

1) ask where you towing me! don't want french fishing vessel to take you France! Unless this is only option! or in my locality the wrong side of river.

2) how much? might be pint in pub, or pay for some fuel. most people are happy to help... it might be them next time.


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Old 25 March 2011, 05:47   #14
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The RNLI will not charge salvage, ...
If offered line by RNLI accept it, don't agrue...
in terms of Salvage I agree, and in general whilst RNLI crew are very good - I'd suggest some caution is required in applying your "accept it, don't argue" mantra. They are not infallible, and if for some reason you don't want/need a tow then a sensible discussion might be in order.

As to who's rope to use, use the most appropriate one. Anchorhandler gives a great summary of the salvage situation - unfortunately there seems to have been a bit of an urban myth grown up around accepting a rope, which I've heard propagated by RYA instructors.

On getting a tow - its worth working out in advance (i.e. now) where you will fasten the rope. They apply a huge force, and can rip out weak fittings.

Oh, and its possible to fit an aux on almost any boat. It just needs creativity.
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Old 25 March 2011, 06:24   #15
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good morning,as a serving coastguard myself(not in the ops room)but in the field,we get tasked to many boat breakdowns if youve had a tow back by the rnli,our job is basically collect details and provide a bit of safety advice but the majority of boaters already have the correct kit ie,vhf,flares,etc,but what i would say the ops room staff(mrcc) are very approachable, if your are in a bit of bother they always monitor channel 16,and they do encourage you telephone them if your going off the beaten track with start and end times and possible routes so they now your out there.
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Old 25 March 2011, 07:09   #16
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i've got an award from Ribnet for sound advice, so here goes, DON'T BREAK DOWN.
good servicing and look after you're boat, get to know it inside out, breakdowns are usually fuel or electric's which are both easy to prevent, for machanical failure you need all of the above.
new engines nowadays which are rigged right will give you little trouble with a bit of care, you wouldn't worry about getting in your car and driving somewhere and you don't have a spare engine.
before you all say but you are at sea, that is true but in this day and age you're never far from somebody, it'll just take the AA a little longer thats all, so be prepared for that with mars bars, water and warm clothing, bung them all in a waterproof bag, job done
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i would say the ops room staff(mrcc) are very approachable
I love it when people measure approachability from the inside!
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I love it when people measure approachability from the inside!
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Old 25 March 2011, 11:07   #19
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Hi Soley1
I think what Polwart meant was that it's easy to say that a group of people or an organisation is approachable when your already a part of said group or organisation ..

That said, I worked for 4 years on one of the CG's ETV's (Falmouth ) and can support your claim... Very nice bunch of chaps.

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yes thats what i thought,just making sure.lol,

midger,why dont you enrole in the coastguards cg66 scheme,its free,have a look online
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