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Old 18 December 2011, 15:37   #61
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Anyone had experience with ''Laser Flares'' the Blurb looks good!? Make a nice pressie for the saftey minded,(Like all of us) and they dont go out of date!...That reminds me DOH!
Maximus,

I've not use them myself but have been tempted. AFAIK there are two general types:

The first (and oldest) is effectively a laser pointer which produces a line rather than a spot which you then scan around the horizon hoping to attract some attention. This is simple technology (so presumably fairly reliable) and are reasonably cheap (less than the cost or replacing my mini rocket flares the last time I checked). Could be particularly useful if you can see help coming and just need to guide it in, or if you can see someone to repeatedly paint in the hope of getting help.

The alternative newer technology has some "clever" optics and a motorised part inside that scan round for you producing something that to an observer is supposed to look much more like a handheld flare. Last time I checked they were something like 120. Although moving parts must mean they are slightly more vulnerable to damage they look pretty robust and chunky, and so long as you can turn it on and hold it it will work, whereas the other type require you to point/scan/wave it. Compared to pyro-flares which are gone in a minute the battery life is almost certainly longer than your survival time in the water!

The downside is the are only a "pinpoint" red flare (possible) replacement, so you will still probably want some parachutes and smokes etc - so the replacement and renewal issue is not removed.
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I hope you have made it multiple choice where all the answers are OK?
Well, something on that theme, it's more -

Choose one of the following:

A. Allow willk buy the Redbay of his dreams.
B. Don't and live with a morose, fault finding, cranky old git who follows you round the house, moaning about the quality of the dusting, the household expenditure, the number of cats, the excessive quantity of designer handbags in evidence, the unnecessary purchase of fine Sauvignon blancs from the Loire...

...oh, I think she'll make the right call.

and P., now that JK and NOS have taken the plunge, surely you're next?
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Old 18 December 2011, 15:52   #63
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Well, something on that theme, it's more -

Choose one of the following:

A. Allow willk buy the Redbay of his dreams.
B. Don't and live with a morose, fault finding, cranky old git who follows you round the house, moaning about the quality of the dusting, the household expenditure, the number of cats, the excessive quantity of designer handbags in evidence, the unnecessary purchase of fine Sauvignon blancs from the Loire...

...oh, I think she'll make the right call.
have you guaranteed that they are mutually exclusive? personally I wouldn't have given her such free rein. Perhaps something more like:

"Roof or no roof" (possibly already knowing which answer she would go for and that you agreed!) and "8.5 or 9m" (knowing she will go for "smaller" and you get what you want!).

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and P., now that JK and NOS have taken the plunge, surely you're next?
Have I missed something, has Kennett become a real Ribnobber again? I'm obviously not reading enough of the forum these days.

i thought there was just maybe a chance that a major boat upgrade would happen in 2012, but she started a conversation yesterday with the words "How much do you think a new kitchen will cost?" (that was supposed to be a 2011 project but I managed to procrastinate on it long enough I thought it had been accepted it wasn't happening). I think I might need to bump off the inlaws for the inheritance
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have you guaranteed that they are mutually exclusive?
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Have I missed something, has Kennett become a real Ribnobber again?
Here, less with the lese majeste, did Mr. Kennett (aka Lord Vetinari) not upgrade from a QS 310 to a very plush Bombard thingy?

There's no real justification for a RIB. Just do it.

You know you want to...
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Here, less with the lese majeste, did Mr. Kennett (aka Lord Vetinari) not upgrade from a QS 310 to a very plush Bombard thingy?


I thought you meant he'd gone for a proper boat not a slightly bigger dinghy!

The problem is Mrs P would happily upgrade to a Redbay with a lid of some sort, but thats outside the available budget! I'd happily go for something slightly more affordable but she needs a lot of convincing that it will be so much more warm/dry/comfortable.

In reality the 'tall one' probably has a sensible compromise - small boat for nice weather spur of the moment stuff and charter someone elses toy for the odd weekend when you want to plan far in advance.
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I won't have that word used on here. It's disparaging!
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I agree for the use of that word he should put himself right in the bidges

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Maximus,

I've not use them myself but have been tempted. AFAIK there are two general types:

The first (and oldest) is effectively a laser pointer which produces a line rather than a spot which you then scan around the horizon hoping to attract some attention. This is simple technology (so presumably fairly reliable) and are reasonably cheap (less than the cost or replacing my mini rocket flares the last time I checked). Could be particularly useful if you can see help coming and just need to guide it in, or if you can see someone to repeatedly paint in the hope of getting help.

The alternative newer technology has some "clever" optics and a motorised part inside that scan round for you producing something that to an observer is supposed to look much more like a handheld flare. Last time I checked they were something like 120. Although moving parts must mean they are slightly more vulnerable to damage they look pretty robust and chunky, and so long as you can turn it on and hold it it will work, whereas the other type require you to point/scan/wave it. Compared to pyro-flares which are gone in a minute the battery life is almost certainly longer than your survival time in the water!

The downside is the are only a "pinpoint" red flare (possible) replacement, so you will still probably want some parachutes and smokes etc - so the replacement and renewal issue is not removed.
Thanks for that Mr P.I was thinking of agmenting the standard range of flares, the type of lazer flare which I thought may be worth a look have a flat beam which at around 3Nm is something like 2000 yards wide,and can be seen ALOT further out than that.They are designed to act as a kind of flat plane light funnel,for the rescue helicopter to home in on. You use them by flipping into (and out!) of a rescuers vision. One thing for sure if anyone were in the water,out of Piro flares, at night,and fortunate enough to have a drysuit on, you may wish you had one!They are waterproof AND fit in the pocket,at about 70 may be a good investment!
I think I just sold one to myself!.. I'll let you know what I make of it when I get one.
Concerning survival times, some years ago some diver friends of mine in Diver grade drysiuts survived for over 16hrs in Lyme bay befor being rescued,after being thrown from thier RIB with NO kill cord attached.
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