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Old 02 January 2013, 14:48   #31
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I think the general idea is to reduce wash, which is observable.
So its subjective and can be applied inconsistently by our Harbour Master?

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Old 03 January 2013, 07:50   #32
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It is a little known fact that Rule 1 (b) of the International Regulations for Preventing Collisions at Sea allows for Local Harbour Authorities to introduce their own special rules (bye-laws) and an example of this is that the Poole Chain Ferry has right of way over all other vessels, except those under compulsory pilotage. Where as its counterpart in Cowes has to give way to all vessels.

Extract from Cowes Harbour Bylaws (1972) as amended

a. The Chain Ferry shall give way to vessels navigating in the harbour, whether proceeding in a northerly or southerly direction.
The Chain Ferry shall, by day and by night, when proceeding from one bank to the other, exhibit at the fore end, a flashing white light, so positioned as to be visible all round. For the purpose of this byelaw, the fore end of the Ferry means the end nearest the side of the River Medina to which the Chain Ferry is proceeding.
c. During fog or any other condition similarly restricting visibility, the Chain Ferry shall sound, when proceeding from one bank to the other, two prolonged blasts on a whistle or a portable fog horn, at intervals of not more than one minute.

Well I didn't know that!

For some reason the new Higher Ferry on the Dart was originally equipped with orange rotating beacons at either end - in my book that made it a hovercraft!
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Old 03 January 2013, 08:06   #33
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Well I didn't know that!

For some reason the new Higher Ferry on the Dart was originally equipped with orange rotating beacons at either end - in my book that made it a hovercraft!
Is that a hovercraft in non-displacment mode ....or a nuclear sub running on the surface ? ( dont know why that sticks in my mind from reading the col regs book ...)

Poole chain ferry has them, but I dont hink / recall them being orange.

Sorry pointless thread drift...
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It is a little known fact that Rule 1 (b) of the International Regulations for Preventing Collisions at Sea allows for Local Harbour Authorities to introduce their own special rules (bye-laws) and an example of this is that the Poole Chain Ferry has right of way over all other vessels, except those under compulsory pilotage. Where as its counterpart in Cowes has to give way to all vessels.

Extract from Cowes Harbour Bylaws (1972) as amended

a. The Chain Ferry shall give way to vessels navigating in the harbour, whether proceeding in a northerly or southerly direction.
I don't know for certain, but I suspect the reason for the change is that during busy periods its impossible to find clear space for the ferry to cross.

And some boat owners, once they know their rights, seem insistent on enforcing them.

The ferry does around a 150 crossings a day, so you can imagine the cumulative effect of being held up for a minute or so each time.
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That's not a prblem on the Dart .....all ferries have right of way....interfere at your peril! I hsve no idea how many crossings they make... 0630-2245 non stop -simultaneous loading c. 15 min per cycle c. 70- crossings per day???. Ferries don't give way!!!!
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Ferries don't give way!!!!
a. The Chain Ferry shall give way to vessels navigating in the harbour, whether proceeding in a northerly or southerly direction.
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There are a couple of problems with this speed limit lark that I have already encountered. One, the race boat doesn't go that slow even against the tide, two, with very small rudders on the same boat we would have no steerage going with the tide
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There are a couple of problems with this speed limit lark that I have already encountered. One, the race boat doesn't go that slow even against the tide, two, with very small rudders on the same boat we would have no steerage going with the tide
If you are going with the tide then you will create less wash.
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If you are going with the tide then you will create less wash.
I think what Biffer is trying to say is that in gear the race boat will be exceeding the speed limit and it doesn't matter which way he is going.

With both engines in gear on our race boat we run at about 6 mph+ and to go any slower we need to have one engine out of gear which limits our manoeuvrability to a certain extent.
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If you are going with the tide then you will create less wash.
If I go with the tide I have to go faster than the tide because I will have no steering. As with most power boats. But when you put a thousand hp in gear it tends to move. Now the boat will do as John says 6 mph against the tide. If you go with the tide I have to do at least 12 mph to have any control over her
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