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Old 10 November 2004, 17:32   #21
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...and could probably sell sand to the Arabs!
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Old 10 November 2004, 17:35   #22
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Oh, must have been asleep or something.

But another good reason to ask why the content of RIB int is so 'Top end of the market' based, or am I being unfair?



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Like, why does "Top Gear" feature Astons, Lotus, Porsche, Zonda, and have an amusing feature called "Star in a Reasonably Priced Car".

C'mon Nash, it's aspirational marketing.

Alternatively you could publish "Fred Dibnah's Traction Engine Monthly".
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Fred Dibnah RIP. He died last week. There passes a great Briton.

Anyway I digress. I've not read RIB Intl for 3 years or more because I got well and truly fed up with the tortured prose, poor layout and focus on presentation over content. As Richard says this was aired quite comprehensively here a couple of years ago. If Hugo MS. (Who I think is perfectly nice chap) took it onboard then great. If its still not the mag that it could be then he is going to find one day a monthly Ribing mag is going to start up and blow him out of the water. The shame of it two years ago is that the former magazine publisher was too happy in his retirement to seek the hassle of taking RI on!

Sportsnobber and RIB Mag isn't much cop either although Alan Priddy does have a monthly rant, sorry column in it. What can be very good, especially if peeps contribute to it is the BIBOA mag, RIBLINES. (Yvonne the Ed puts a tremendous amount of effort into it.)

I think its great that some Ribsters haven't heard of Paul Lemmer. That means there's hope for the sport yet (& I like the guy!)
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Fred Dibnah RIP. He died last week. There passes a great Briton.
Sorry to hear that - I'm sure Fred would be proud to be remembered as an eccentric and top all round Lancastrian. I read that he passed away in a hospice - and if you've never visited one, they are (from my very small experience of them) very dignified places staffed by very caring people. The Sue Ryder Foundation (amongst others) runs establishments deserving of assistance by donation.
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You can read that rant, sorry column, for free in "All at Sea" which has another small advantage over Sportsnobber and Fib Magazine that it's kinder on your bottom when you "recycle" it.
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Diamond Geezer was Fred - a great shame that he was taken so early! Perhaps we should petition Rupert Murdoch to contribute a large slice of the profits he will make from re-running Fred's wonderful legacy of programs to the hospice. Its about time he did some good in the world....
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I too am thoroughly disappointed in RIB International - the new issue plopped down yesterday. I bought 24 months back copies and reckon pretty well everything in the latest was in one of those. And having already bought a rib, what is there in it for me. And a year ago I had not heard of a RIB...
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Paul Lemmer is a guy that's been around Ribbing for a long time. He used to own BWM and now runs a couple of boat related companies. I know he is an Agent for Parker ribs.

I think he races (navigates) in a Bannana shark called Maverick , he is not universally recognised as being lucky on the water
Raced being the operative word - the curse continues! The owner / driver was involved in an accident in a Zapcat which resulted in a seious shoulder injury and no longer able to race - the boat has now been sold and will be racing again in 2005.
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So is there talk of producing some sort of RIBnet publication, or is this a rant about how RIB Int has gone downhill?! I reckon if its broke then have a go at trying to fix it! I'll take all the pics !

I too feel that there isn't enough content in the mag, but having submitted work to magazines (RIB International being one, 3 of my pics are in this issue ) and spoken to the editors, they find it very difficult to get hold of the right kind of material. Hugo paid an interest in running a practical artical idea I had but we'll have to see about that. The editors are always looking for new and fresh ideas!

I know of a mountain bike forum that has its own magazine (www.singletrackworld.co.uk) but I can't remember whether the mag or the forum came first! Anyway, they do it off a shoe string budget but it still turns out to be one of the finest mountain bike mags available as all the major run of the mill mags have gone all "commercial" and are just full of a load of crap. Singletrack mag takes the sport back to is grass roots and makes you want to go out and just ride. Surely a good RIB mag should just make you want to get out on the water and just RIB away or be inspired to do some DIY alterations!

You have to remember however that if RIB International goes under because people like us don't support it then what are we left with?! Sportsboat mag is good but its not dedicated to the RIB. There is only ever going to be a limited number of ideas coming from a small number of people producing a mag like RI, so they need extra input from the readers to make it as good as it could be.

Blimey i've typed a lot!

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