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Old 16 February 2013, 14:26   #61
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Some of his brands might be a bit stupid but when you look at what he has done for charity and his work for Scouting in the UK you've got to give him credit.
Just like Jimmy Saville did
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[QUOTE=tonto;517066].

However having recently read Bear's book about how he came back from being potentially paralysed at 19 after a helicopter crash whilst in the SAS, to become (at that time) the youngest person to climb Everest at 22, and the journey, fundraising, and expedition to do that, it really changed my opinion of him, it shows a person with real drive and determination to beat the odds, and for me was quite enlightening.

I'm with ya mate.

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would have been better if he had supported a UK manufacturer , rather than a foreign one who built their reputation by copying a uk manufacturer
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would have been better if he had supported a UK manufacturer , rather than a foreign one who built their reputation by copying a uk manufacturer
Fair comment.
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I don't care what anyone says, I love Bear. His programmes are great; anyone who eats a live tarantula and jumps off a waterfall is ok in my book. Ray Mears is ok but he's too sincere and you have to bring your own lunch if you go on one of his courses. And as for Bear being a raging self-publicist, he's got a long way to go before he catches up with Nelson. And Madera ribs are great too.
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However having recently read Bear's book about how he came back from being potentially paralysed at 19 after a helicopter crash whilst in the SAS, to become (at that time) the youngest person to climb Everest at 22, and the journey, fundraising, and expedition to do that, it really changed my opinion of him, it shows a person with real drive and determination to beat the odds, and for me was quite enlightening.

I'm with ya mate.

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His back injury was caused by a parchute accident where he failed to cut away a partially opened chute to deploy the reserve. He demonstrated what he should of done on an episode of his show.
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Just like Jimmy Saville did
I know one thing for certain, Bear Grylls is sufficiently intelligent not to make a pathetic and ill thought out comparison such as this one.
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would have been better if he had supported a UK manufacturer , rather than a foreign one who built their reputation by copying a uk manufacturer
That's a bit daft, support a product you don't believe in just because it is British. There is no-one more patriotic than I, but I can't see the logic in this.

Who has Madera copied, certainly none of the UK manufacturers that I have worked with and not Crompton in my view either.
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His back injury was caused by a parchute accident where he failed to cut away a partially opened chute to deploy the reserve. He demonstrated what he should of done on an episode of his show.
You are quite right!

It was a few years ago I read the book, and that incident was at the start of the book, but the rest was pretty good! Still a good read though.....

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Will75 a few years ago madera used a copy of cromptons web site and even asked me if i could supply them with crompton moulds . the boats bear is promoting may not be copies of cromptons but as i said madera built their reputation by copying someone elses product
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Will75 a few years ago madera used a copy of cromptons web site and even asked me if i could supply them with crompton moulds . the boats bear is promoting may not be copies of cromptons but as i said madera built their reputation by copying someone elses product
Hi Paul. Ok fair point....but I am sure you know that this behaviour is not limited to the continent. Don't ask me to name them though. Anyway nice to make your acquaintance, I know you are well respected in the industry. Cheers Will
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I don't know if they were successful, but Madera were trying to buy the Crompton moulds when Crompton were sold off by Customs and Excise.

If that's after they talked to Paul, they may be using the Crompton moulds rather than a splash.
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I am great admirer of Bear Grylls. No one can deny he has done some fantastic things and been in some tough situations. I have only seen him across a crowded room at Southampton Drystack on one occasion, but he seems to me to be a guy with great intelligence, experience and a lovely family.

Unless I am wrong the RN made him an honorary Lt Cdr so they must thing he's a good chap too?

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I know one thing for certain, Bear Grylls is sufficiently intelligent not to make a pathetic and ill thought out comparison such as this one.
Jeez, get a room
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I know one thing for certain, Bear Grylls is sufficiently intelligent not to make a pathetic and ill thought out comparison such as this one.
Don't see how this is pathetic and ill thought out: up until his death it was an oft heard refrain, "say what you like about Jimmy Saville, but he's done a lot for charity". Which seems to be pretty much the default Bear defense (tho no one's suggesting that he's a paedo obvs).
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Will ,Nos madera were copying cromptons before the sale of the moulds .and although i dont like bears programmes the guy should be applauded for his charity work
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That's a strange thing to say, why do you hate him?
he does dangerous things which are totally unnecessary, jumping down waterfalls - you cant get trapped at the base of them. jumping into water at all - you dont know what is below the surface. my biggest problem i think is how much he likes to get wet, when ive always been told that the key to survival is to stay dry at all costs. its all for bravado and of course to make entertaining tv, but how many morons watch it and get stupid ideas about copying what he does?
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My wife and I had dinner years ago with Bear and his wife Shara (she is great mates with one of our best mates). Bear was charming, had a few interesting points, like the jeans he was wearing that he had embroidered himself ! He was more interested in other people rather than in himself - which is a good quality I think.

Very likeable chap, but I agree would have been better if somehow he could have hooked up with a British manufacturer
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Have you or anyone else seen this on a triple engined boat? All I can think is it would put a strain on the centre engine? It is common for the outer engines to have shorter legs but that's for good reason!
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