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Old 01 October 2013, 04:46   #11
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Does anyone have a link to the statistics for kill cord accidents over the last 13 years?
It was stated on the program that there has been no improvement since the boat show incident - but no figures to back it up.

Statistics are all well and good but even the program said that a minor incident where the helm went overboard with a kill cord attached might not be reported - so we will never know how effective they are - we only hear when someone unfortunately forgets to put it on - AND has an accident.
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Just watched it. Quite interesting...
I make sure mine is on but it's only a small boat...
Think the RYA guy said about two deaths a year on average...
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Just watched the program, very good I thought, RYA Trainer very thoughtful, and in my opinion is correct, I thought the WiFi option is good and could be used however if the helm goes over, how do the people on the boat then recover the helm ????

Someone will suggest there is an over ride to the device, if this is the case, 50% (Guess) will decide not to use the WiFi option, as they do with the kill cord.

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Just watched it. Quite interesting...
I make sure mine is on but it's only a small boat...
Think the RYA guy said about two deaths a year on average...

May only be a small boat, however it has the potential of the boat hitting you with the engine still doing 2000 - 4000 revs !!!
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May only be a small boat, however it has the potential of the boat hitting you with the engine still doing 2000 - 4000 revs !!!
Very true steco, which is why I wear mine... What I meant is I don't have so far to move on mine to do things so the kill cord is no bother....

I quite liked the wifi thing too...
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if the wifi option cannot tell where you are to the inch then not yet goon enough. I have seen vids of these taking 3 sec or so to kill the engine when sender is over the stern where legs would be getting chopped.
Sure this will be improved over time, but ive yet to see one i would be comfortable with.
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They showed the RNLI crew without one - am sure read on here before that the throttles are spring loaded - or am i just imaging it? If it is, whats the views on that? Not done enough RIBing to figure out if that has gotchas or not?
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Just watched it, first thoughts were any coverage that might help others use their kill cords must be good.
But can't help thinking of all the many ideas and discussions on here over this subject, did anything really come of it !!
I'll just watch the thread and see how it goes, or pans out. If anything it's left me thinking the same thoughts as I did before, why can people not see the danger.
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The result from where I'm sitting was Paul G came across as well thought out and logical, while Heddon Johnson came across as a bit dim and a little overzealous.
I agree that Paul did a good job, but I think your comments about Johnson are a bit harsh. I don't agree with him, but I do have enormous sympathy for him.

I wasn't very impressed with the reaction time for the Coastkey. Seems like a lot of money and complicated electronics to produce something that appears to be substantially less effective than a glorified piece of string!
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They showed the RNLI crew without one - am sure read on here before that the throttles are spring loaded - or am i just imaging it? If it is, whats the views on that? Not done enough RIBing to figure out if that has gotchas or not?
no spring loading - quite the opposite, in fact. Currently reliant on crew training, footstraps, relatively underpowered ribs, PPE, 90 degree engine immobilisation. Operating history probably supports that position, given the downside of accidentally losing propulsion in certain scenarios.

Fair to say I do things to a lifeboat (deliberately, and as trained) that I wouldn't do to my own for similar reasons.
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