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Old 09 October 2008, 13:41   #11
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I think the correct term is "pimping".....
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Old 09 October 2008, 13:59   #12
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I' ve been a moderator on a few forums (photography based) which isn't that hard to do, but how would you go about mod'ing B&O? Unless you could have Moderators from different sections of the country to actually go and view the item.
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I think the correct term is "pimping"
And your pimp name is Sticky Fingers Kennett Slick

according to here .. get that swagger stick and leopard skin fed
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I' ve been a moderator on a few forums (photography based) which isn't that hard to do, but how would you go about mod'ing B&O? Unless you could have Moderators from different sections of the country to actually go and view the item.
It'd be quite easy-just get the system to send an automated 'for sale' enquiry email from a list. The response will show a scam very obviously.
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had a member of our boat club scammed last month for over 3000 for an engine that never appeared,via a certain web site and the police say that he has no chance of it getting back ,it wasent just him either quite a few by all accounts ,there were people covering up for the overseas company saying they had ordered things, bit late but eventually it turned up fine ,thing is they were alegidly in with the scam too so the police say ..
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I' ve been a moderator on a few forums (photography based) which isn't that hard to do, but how would you go about mod'ing B&O? Unless you could have Moderators from different sections of the country to actually go and view the item.
I was thinking of weeding out the more blatant scams which would be pretty easy - at least make the scammers work a bit harder!

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I was thinking of weeding out the more blatant scams which would be pretty easy - at least make the scammers work a bit harder!

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I think that's the problem though. The scammers aren't that blatant unless you've got an idea what you're looking at. Unless of course there's a big yank motor or stars and stripes flying on an ad that says it's in the UK.
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We seem to have spotted a few in the past without actually needing to go and look at anything. Here's a few for starters (from Ebay as well as B&O):

Boats & Outboards scam!!!
is this rib cheap?
Mug Required.......
Boatsandoutboards Scam?
Is this to good to be true?

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I think that's the problem though. The scammers aren't that blatant unless you've got an idea what you're looking at. Unless of course there's a big yank motor or stars and stripes flying on an ad that says it's in the UK.
They're not obvious from the readers point of view but I would be surprised if there aren't trends in where they come from that B&O would spot, and take measures to hinder them. e.g.
  • country of origin of IP address
  • domain name used for email address
  • specific IP addresses
  • new users who have never posted an ad before; or of course those who posted scams before!
  • categories being posted in
  • number of photos (to get price cheap/free)
  • trends for the default options for location, fuel etc
This sort of approach is common for email (and forum) spam assessment. So each ad gets a "scam score" and then based on some threshold gets rejected/requires moderated/accepted.

I think they have a fundamental error by not asking users to register. But there isn't even any verification that the phone number provided has a valid number of digits or that the postcode exists.

they are quick enough to refuse any advert that cross refers to ebay (presumably as it might get in the way of their revenue stream from phone calls) that they should be able to stop this too.
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They're not obvious from the readers point of view
They are from where I'm sat!
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