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21 June 2008, 06:02
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: Alderney
Length: no boat
Join Date: Sep 2006
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Avon SR4 Performance
I was doing some sums for a fellow RIB.netter about the likely performance increase of going from a fairly light 30HP to a heavier 40HP, do my results bear resemblance to people's experience?:
650kg loaded boat + 30HP = 29kn
670kg + 40HP = 32kn
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21 June 2008, 08:43
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Newcastle
Boat name: Merlin
Make: RB4 Gemini 550
Length: 5m +
Engine: Tohatsu 90C
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 465
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Yam 40 2 stroke - Just me - about 40l of fuel - a little bit of chop
29 knots. Think there was a little more there but started chine walking and backed off.
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21 June 2008, 10:36
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bristol
Boat name: Sea 'n Double
Make: Searider SR4
Length: 4m +
Engine: 50hp Mariner
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 321
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Quote:
Originally Posted by malthouse
650kg loaded boat + 30HP = 29kn
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650kg sounds heavy for an SR4, considering the boat and console weigh approx 160kg(according to the Avon workboats site)
What else have to got on there that weighs nearly half a ton?
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21 June 2008, 11:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy JC
650kg sounds heavy for an SR4, considering the boat and console weigh approx 160kg(according to the Avon workboats site)
What else have to got on there that weighs nearly half a ton?
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I calculated the likely wet weight based on the current price of Chillean bannana seeds.
I did throw in some people, fuel, batteries and a few cases of beer. Too much beer you think?
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21 June 2008, 15:15
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bristol
Boat name: Sea 'n Double
Make: Searider SR4
Length: 4m +
Engine: 50hp Mariner
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 321
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Quote:
Originally Posted by malthouse
Too much beer you think?
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Nope, not possible
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23 June 2008, 14:25
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#6
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Puffin
Make: Westerly
Length: 6m +
Engine: 5hp Yam outboard
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 335
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Engine changes
Personally I would bypass the 40hp and move to a 50HP, as depending on manufacturer of outboard some 40's are 30's tuned up and some 40's are 50's detuned.. Get a 50hp and then will have the extra grunt when you need it too, plus a higher cruising speed. I once had 4m with a 60hp.. that was just silly!! But fun!! Get the right prop too, can make the difference with top speed by 3-5 knots..
If going 40hp get a 3 cylinder model.. not a 2 cylinder model.. More grunt!
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23 June 2008, 14:36
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Member
Country: Netherlands
Town: Holland
Make: Brig F360S
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yamaha 70hp
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Quote:
Originally Posted by badbaws
Personally I would bypass the 40hp and move to a 50HP, as depending on manufacturer of outboard some 40's are 30's tuned up and some 40's are 50's detuned.. Get a 50hp and then will have the extra grunt when you need it too, plus a higher cruising speed. I once had 4m with a 60hp.. that was just silly!! But fun!! Get the right prop too, can make the difference with top speed by 3-5 knots..
If going 40hp get a 3 cylinder model.. not a 2 cylinder model.. More grunt!
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I know a Avon 4 meter with a 60hp Merc, that flies indeed!
You better have too much horsepower than too less, because if you have too much you can put the throttle down, with too less you can't.
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23 June 2008, 16:58
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#8
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: ramsgate
Boat name: Micki Dee Bee
Make: Ribcraft Seasafari
Length: 9m +
Engine: Twin 250hp Suzuki
MMSI: 235057235
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,622
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Am guessing it depends on how heavy the lump is on the back.
The little 30ph I have at the mo is an old 2 stroke and gives me about 33mph.
Mind you not sure how much the engines weighs!
Cheers
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23 June 2008, 22:20
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Member
Country: Netherlands
Town: Holland
Make: Brig F360S
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yamaha 70hp
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 85
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I know someone who had an Avon 4 meter with a Mercury 25hp Tiller steering, ran 34mph with two adults... A console slows the boat down very much as you can see.
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24 June 2008, 15:19
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#10
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Puffin
Make: Westerly
Length: 6m +
Engine: 5hp Yam outboard
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 335
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Console..
If you have the standard avon Console it only weighs about 20 kg or so, as is thin and quite small and it also moves the weight of the driver and one passenger to the centre of the boat for best weight distribution rather than perched on the back. With a brand new Tohatsu 50 last summer I got 33.2 knots maximum with 1 person, 31 knots with 2 people and 30 knots with 3 people.
I think it needed a different prop to get a couple more knots out of it.. but pretty much with a 50hp the most you are going to get is about 35knots +/_ a knot...
If you are getting anywhere near 30 knots with a 25hp you must have the best 25hp ever.. as last one I saw with a 25hp managed about 23 knots..
Also it depends how you measure your speed, GPS up and down wind and up and down tide.. but most I have ever achieved in a 4m searider is 37 knots with a 1992 Mariner 60HP 3 cylinder engine.
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