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Old 20 July 2010, 08:52   #61
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Old 20 July 2010, 08:57   #62
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I agree with matt h. Cracks appeared in exactly the same place on mine.
Such a shame, for the sake of a bit more grp and a few hours labour they ruined a reasonable rib performance wise and a great rib looks wise.

Hope you get what you want dubrus. Keep us posted on what you buy (pics)
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Old 20 July 2010, 20:42   #63
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Playing devils advocate here for a moment, how did we get from this in 2007:

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good in the rough stuff, does need more pitch down to get a really good ride through the breakers!!
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the first thing i really noticed was how bad it was in the rough, I mean 2 foot waves threw it all over the place, the hull was very thin, coupled with the outhill fixtures and fitting which in my opinion were also made of paper, the seats i chose were so soft, you could (scuse the pun) bottom out. it was an awfull boat, very noisy, slappy, and not at all a capable rough water rib, you could almost hear every droplet of water to hit the hull, it was terrible.
I am not trying to wind anybody up here just curious as the comments on the original 07 thread and this one seem to be miles apart. Have you had a lot of better boats since that made you decide the Avon was rubbish, or was it the inevitable "love is blind" when getting a new toy? (we all do it whether or not we admit it...)

As I say I'm just curious, I have first hand experience of how having your boat fall to bits in the first year of ownership can somewhat cloud your glowing view of a new toy ...
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Old 21 July 2010, 03:04   #64
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Have you had a lot of better boats since that made you decide the Avon was rubbish
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good in the rough stuff, does need more pitch down to get a really good ride through the breakers!!
Surely a new or older boat has to be exceptional in the rough and should achieve a brilliant ride.after I had a go on a newish ribcraft 585 on the same afternoon I also realised the difference between a ok ish rib and a fantastic rib!! but it was only a few days later when i was giving it a wax n shine that i noticed
(with only a few hours on the boat) long spray rail cracks on it.it wa alsmost like the boat had been dropped on its side on concrete!!

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with reference to yours. how did you solve your problem, or have you got it sorted now?
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Old 21 July 2010, 04:48   #65
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first rib

Hi Dubrus,
i was in the same boat(ha ha) as you. Ive had a number of boats the last one being a Bayliner 175 135 hp, very nice boat but no good when the water got a bit rough so i started looking for a rib. I did,nt want to go to france and back and i did,nt want to go wave jumping, i just wanted to put my two kids on the boat and enjoy the water. 10K to spend. I read that some people didnt rate the avon 560 so had a look around for something else, i drove miles to look at a number or Ribs that were rough, ugly or just not what i wanted. I saw some good looking ribs with one jocky seat or nice ribs with two stroke engines which are fine but i wanted a four stroke. I went to look at a Avon 560 with the yamaha f100 engine two jocky seats up front bench to the rear and suicide seat up front, looked right, right price so i bought it.
I have been out on it a number of times now and i can tell you it,s 100% better than my previous boats. Im sure like lots of the people on here say it,s probably, as far as ribs go not the best for rough water and maybe not as well made as others but there are worse out there and for my first rib im very happy. It has got me on a rib and maybe next year i will know what i like and dont like about the avon and my next rib will have everything i do like.
Great site people.
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Old 21 July 2010, 06:42   #66
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after I had a go on a newish ribcraft 585 on the same afternoon I also realised the difference between a ok ish rib and a fantastic rib!!

with reference to yours. how did you solve your problem, or have you got it sorted now?
Fair enough just wondered

Mine were tube issues rather than hull issues, well documented on here a few years back, no significant problems with the hull (I had one hole appear in the gelcoat at one point, which I reckoned must have been an air bubble in it from new which got a bash on the trailer, filled it easily and had no other problems). The hull did have some small stress cracks inside near the bow but I found out how those got there (definitely operator-related...) and they never got any worse in the four years I owned it.

It's now gone to a new home and I am eagerly hopping up and down in anticipation of the arrival of a new Vipermax which now isn't going to be here till the end of October
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Old 21 July 2010, 06:52   #67
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glad you had no problems jim, thanks for the post.

i spoke to the owner last night and he said there is only 2 small very light scrapes in the gel thanks to scraping the mudguard and not the rollers once-DOH!. i don't mind fixing those as not a huge job to have a mint hull again.

other than this no cracks anywhere he said, guy is a nice guy so see how it goes shortly.

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well tell them to hurry up!! lovely boat!!
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Old 21 July 2010, 08:33   #69
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dubrus,

if you do get the avon560, do let us know how you like it...I presume this will be your first RIB coming from a cuddy cruiser/bowrider type speedboat so it would really be interesting how does the 560 which doesn't have so good feedback compare your previous boat?
From a Ribcraft or similar to an 560 would not make you happy, but I wonder if from your previous to the 560 will put a smile on your face....
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Old 21 July 2010, 08:36   #70
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Avon 560 my story so far

About a 2 months ago i purchased a 2006 560 with a 100hp yam 4 stroke also 2006 with 110 hrs on the clock it is in mint condition ( boat and engine) it's got the twin cowl console with the suicide seat and 2 jockey seats but no bench seat in the back.
Since purchasing it i have fitted A-farme, Nav lights, stainless rod holders, sh 1500 vhf, and a garmin 750s ( which is the most awesome bit of kit). so quite a lay out as my first rib having graduated from a futura mk2.
I have just returned from just over 2 weeks in the falmouth - St mawes area with it having kept it moored for the 2 weeks. The hunt for a rib took some time and as it was my first rib alot of factors were taken into consideration.
Having returned from cornwall i can report that it has proved to be a huge sucess giving me an enormous amount of pleasure from a fishing and family point of view. you must understand that the suprise my wife had when i came down the drive with it was nearly as great as the suprise i was to recieve from the solicitors if the rib was a failure!
I had it out in all conditions that i was comfortable with and she was brilliant, i completed my PB1 and 2 when i was down there and the instructor said after thrashing it what a good boat it was. Had 5 peaople 2 kids 3 adults on it mackrel fishing and cruising with great comfort and 2 of us went off shore wreck and bass fishing easily and with no bench seat in the back i had room for cool boxes and lifting sorting and moving my lobster pots.

As i say this is my first rib and so i have no comparison but what i do know is it has given the family and myself a huge amount of pleasure in a short space of time is easy to transport ( suffolk-Stmawes 6 hrs 20) which is no slower without a boat.

The only question i ask my self is why didn't i buy a rib earlier in life?

sorry to cut short but combines rolling!!
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