Avon 4m Adventurer - Page 2

Nos4r2 · 22 January 2009, 01:16

An Sr4 with the right prop and a 50hp 2 stroke will go like the blue blazes-I had close to 40 knots out of mine and took it out in some very very nasty conditions which it lapped up. The boat will take far more of a pounding than you can.

There's a bit of vid of mine at speed here (it's at 1.16,1.59 and 2.25). Bear in mind I'm 6'3" tall so I make it look very small. :-

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...6izCQ&q=ribnet

gibbo500 · 22 January 2009, 08:50

Thanks guys most helpful.

I contacted the seller in USA about the Yamaha, just waiting for a response. Might be an expensive option though due to the strength of the £. Would have been a steal a year ago!

Great vid, thats what ribbing is all about. Just makes me want to get out on the water but no chance of that today as Dartmouth is blowing a gale and hammering it down.

I will keep looking, would like to get a good set up and am prepared to pay good money for the right boat.

Thanks for your time.

Gibbo

gibbo500 · 22 January 2009, 12:51

Spoken to a well known Rib manufacturer about this one:

http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/RFT110

I appreciate that many of you think this is very expensive and probably don't favour the 4 stroke engine for this type of boat.

What about these options:

1. Buy boat and trailer only.
Fit new Tohatsu 50 or Yamaha (depending on price).

Total cost £6100 ish (Tohatsu) but i would have new boat and engine.

or

2. Totally forget it and look for something cheaper, slightly bigger (5M or less) or a better package for this sort of money.

Too many boats and engines whizzing through my head to think clearly, so will let you guys point me in the right direction.

If you favour option 1, i might go and have a look at boat tomorrow (Fri).

As always your advice greatly appreciated.

Gibbo

Downhilldai · 22 January 2009, 19:45

SR4 values:

£500: Rough old dog. Not really worth bothering with.

£1000: 1980s boat only, or boat & trailer in half decent order, or a complete outfit in need of work.

£2000: Half tidy outfit, ready to go, nothing too new, but respectable.

£3000: Nice clean outfit, with a decent motor, eg 50 Yam, around 10-15 years old. Something like this: http://rib.net/forum/showthread.php?t=26702

£7000: REFURBISHED (not new) hull with new tubes and a DF40 Soozook.

Take your pick. It shouldn't be too difficult.

If you really want to spend £7k on a SR4, then try a wanted ad on here. I daresay you'll get a healthy response.

PeterM · 22 January 2009, 20:02

Gibbo - quick question - have you tried any of the boat types you are thinking of . Suggest if you can it will be very helpfull for your decision making. There can be big differances in types and even differant set ups of the same hull. Just a thought ...........

For the record I love my 4m Adventure, but thats just me , others will not

Oh and for about 10k you can get effectively a new one with warranty etc ;

http://www.bhg-marine.co.uk/preowned.htm

Nos4r2 · 22 January 2009, 20:04

Jesus that's a lot of money!

You'll get an excellent Sr4 for half that price.

gibbo500 · 22 January 2009, 20:33

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Originally Posted by Nos4r2

Jesus that's a lot of money!

You'll get an excellent Sr4 for half that price.

£10750 or £6100?

I would be happy with an older boat but definately like to put a new or fairly new engine on it and accept that is obviously going to bump the price up.

Oh well, will keep on looking. With money getting tighter might be a few bargains to be had in the coming months?

Thanks for replying.

gibbo500 · 22 January 2009, 21:02

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Originally Posted by Blackroady

Gibbo - quick question - have you tried any of the boat types you are thinking of . Suggest if you can it will be very helpfull for your decision making. There can be big differances in types and even differant set ups of the same hull. Just a thought ...........

I have tried:

SR 5.4 - great boat but slightly bigger than what i want.

Zodiac Pro - too big / expensive.

Ribeye ? - too expensive.

I have 4m inflatable absolutely love it. Size is ideal but want more power, i considered buying 30hp engine but ultimately would like a rib that would fulfil all my requirements (small, fast, powerful). I have a budget of 7k and want the best i can get for that money, if something cheaper came along .....great. There are a few Adventurers around that sort of money.

Gibbo

Nos4r2 · 22 January 2009, 21:38

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Originally Posted by gibbo500

£10750 or £6100?

I would be happy with an older boat but definately like to put a new or fairly new engine on it and accept that is obviously going to bump the price up.

Oh well, will keep on looking. With money getting tighter might be a few bargains to be had in the coming months?

Thanks for replying.

Sorry, was replying to your post about the refurbed one with a df40 for £7k.

£3500 will see you a really good sr4 with a very good engine with power trim on it.You may even get some electronics in the deal as well-and if you keep it nice it won't depreciate.

JSP · 22 January 2009, 21:44

That 4m searider on boats and outboards is great and I'd happily kill you if you bought it

But it is very expensive for what it is.
The thread in this link http://rib.net/forum/showthread.php?t=26342
Is full of sound advice I got when I was in the same position. Have a read as it may help. You have more moeny to spend though

gibbo500 · 23 January 2009, 00:02

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Originally Posted by JSP

That 4m searider on boats and outboards is great and I'd happily kill you if you bought it

But it is very expensive for what it is.
The thread in this link http://rib.net/forum/showthread.php?t=26342
Is full of sound advice I got when I was in the same position. Have a read as it may help. You have more moeny to spend though

Good read, thanks JSP.

I am certain a Searider is what i want either a 4m or 4.7.

Quite excited about the thought of tracking a good one down.

Nos4r2 · 23 January 2009, 00:26

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Originally Posted by gibbo500

Good read, thanks JSP.

I am certain a Searider is what i want either a 4m or 4.7.

Quite excited about the thought of tracking a good one down.

If you're restricted on access and storage room, measure up a 4.7 on a trailer 1st. They are quite a lot bigger than the 4m.
This might just be a comment on me being a bit throttle-happy, but I'd want to have a 70hp on a 4.7-In my opinion Seariders have just enough power when close to/on max rated HP.

westlajay · 23 January 2009, 04:22

I have a SR4M with a 50 HP Honda 4 stroke and it easily pulls my son on either a wakeboard or water skis. An ultimately seaworthy vessel and the envy of the local Coast Guard Auxiliary.

JSP · 23 January 2009, 07:53

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Originally Posted by Nos4r2

If you're restricted on access and storage room, measure up a 4.7 on a trailer 1st. They are quite a lot bigger than the 4m.
This might just be a comment on me being a bit throttle-happy, but I'd want to have a 70hp on a 4.7-In my opinion Seariders have just enough power when close to/on max rated HP.

Nos isn't it right that seariders are measured from transom to bowto give the 4, 4.7, 5.4 etc? So you still have a the cones to take into account?

Downhilldai · 23 January 2009, 11:45

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Originally Posted by nos4r2

an sr4 with the right prop and a 50hp 2 stroke will go like the blue blazes-i had close to 40 knots out of mine...

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Originally Posted by nos4r2

...in my opinion seariders have just enough power when close to/on max rated hp.

Nos4r2 · 23 January 2009, 19:57

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Originally Posted by Downhilldai

My idea of 'Just enough' is as fast as possible without becoming uncontrollable

Downhilldai · 23 January 2009, 21:09

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Originally Posted by Nos4r2

My idea of 'Just enough' is as fast as possible without becoming uncontrollable

lakelandterrier · 29 January 2009, 16:09

I have an 4m Adventurer with a Merc 40hp 4 stroke, & I find it fine a a family RIB, which can be handeld / launched recovered easily by myself.

It depends what you want to use it for, but for estuary / inshore family cruising it's fine.

Do think about the layout. I got mine with rear console & benchseat - this made it very stern heavy (engine, rear seat, batttery & fuel tank in an the back 40%.

I would go for something to put the weight further forward - BUT from this position I can see the other in the RIB at all times - importasnt with young children.

not the most exciting craft, and hull not best suited to heavy seas, but robust.

LT

floater · 29 January 2009, 20:49

Hi if I may put my pennies worth in

I had a A400 with a Yam 30 2stroke

both my kids and myself learnt to wake board of it (iam 15stone)

it was a very easy boat to launch and recover

it was the only Boat i have had that with a mate and myself i could spin the wheel at full speed whilst he sat in the bow and it would spin on its nose like a jet ski !!

i covered a number of fairly bigish trips in it from Phwhelli to Barmouth and back in the 2005 rib net cruise with the kids and the wife and kept up Just !

I know my wife doesnt like the idea of Jockey seats yet they are better as you use your legs as suspension and knees to grip

But if the weathers that bad the wife stays on the beach

as a family starter boat i think that its a great choice

make sure you clarify how many will use it and how regular and will they all want seats ?

I changed the Avon for a Zodiac Medline great family lay out but not the best handling rough weather capabule but it was what we wanted as a family and i have been over to Ireland and back on it last year 160 miles round trip

I have a number of freinds with Zodiac Pro 9's pro 7's Medlines and 550

if you want a small family rib and you dont want a work horse that could take you across oceans then consider the A400 or the A450 or the pro 7 for a really good Med layout try this

http://www.theyachtmarket.com/boats_...engthunit=feet

just my input

Cheers Andy

badbaws · 31 January 2009, 12:58

I have a 4.5m Adventure hull in white. Has been sat outside for past 6 months and the tubes are not pristine white anymore as another project kept me from using this one.
Is rated for 70hp which it did use to have on there and it was a lively boat. I have skied/ wakeboarded behind the boat no probs.
There are no patches so the tubes hold air.
2006 hull. Boat is open (although previously fitted out with seating which was transferred to another boat)
Send me a PM if interested..
Alex