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Old 10 February 2003, 05:55   #11
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Manos,

for plastic tanks you could try www.internationalmarinesupplies.co.uk , they normally have stock of lge plastic tanks, or for ally or stainless tanks you could use The Tank Company, located in Poole, Dorset. This is a very reputable manufacturer, there tanks are fitted by amongst others, Sunseeker, Princess, Fairline, and the RNLI. Not cheap but then you can't put a price on quality.
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Old 10 February 2003, 06:04   #12
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or for ally or stainless tanks you could use The Tank Company, located in Poole, Dorset. This is a very reputable manufacturer,
Thanks Dirk
Do you have some details for this company??
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Old 10 February 2003, 06:19   #13
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I haven't used them for a couple of years, but the details I have are as follows:

The Tank Company Ltd, 10 Chantry Park, 2 Cowley Rd, Nuffield Ind Estate, Poole, Dorset, BH17 0UJ tel 01202 682830, fax 01202 665572
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Old 10 February 2003, 07:07   #14
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I Manos.

If you can get the tanks under the deck thay are far better their. The reason for this is simply that the weight is lower. I understand that SS tans have to be pressure tested under EU regulations. This gives you 3 options.

1 Pay lost of money
2 Go over seas for the tanks
3 Find a SS company and ask for a water tank that will need good welds as it might be holding extreemly flamible water!!!!!

The problem with 3 is that I am not sure how the insurance company would veiw the water tanks if it was to fail. The last thing you want is fule in the bilge with the elctric pumps pumping it out.

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Old 10 February 2003, 07:14   #15
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I have used the Tank Company a number of times and they have always been happy to discuss and plan out my requirements.

Never had any problems with there stuff.

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Old 10 February 2003, 07:45   #16
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Mark & dgpw

Thanks for the info.
I understand the reason behind having tanks as low as poss, however, my only concern is what happens when something goes wrong?? I'll have to cut through the deck and .... the boat is history then.
I will make a few phone calls later on today and see what I can come out with.
Thanks you for the advise guys. Much appreciated
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Old 10 February 2003, 07:59   #17
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Before I start you need to understand that I have never raced seriously and donít know a whole load about how a boat is made but if you asked me the way forward here is my opinion

1) If the tank is made correctly then you wonít have any problems. How many people do you know who have had under floor tanks that have resulted in the deck being ripped up to fix something ?. As Julian suggests on Scorpions there is an access hatch which allows inspection and access to fuel sensors etc etc. To my mind this is a good idea.

2) How many people who race have deck mounted tanks, none I expect. This is probably because the COG with a deck mounted tank will make the boat non-competitive. Iíll leave Dirk and Jon and the other experts on boat design to explain it.

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Old 10 February 2003, 08:30   #18
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I have never raced seriously
Neither have I Mark, neither have I. Is all done for the fun of it and due to age possibly once or twoice in a year. However, saying this one needs to be as competitive as he/she can be on the day. You agree??
I spoken to my mates in Falcon about the issue of the tanks and they are saying that for F£ racing in SAfrica they always use tanks mountd on the deck. Their justification is that there is easy access to the tanks and if a major repair is needed during a race it can be done there and then without much delay (which makes sence I recon).
The inspection hutch on the deck (to inspect the senders and a part of the lines) is not a problem on the constructual intergridy of the boat. The problem arises however when one has to get a tank out for repairing.
As you say though how many times that has happened?? Not much I don't think.
I will keep investigating and listening to see what I'll come up with at the end of it.
I promissed to my son that he will be my co-driver and he wants to win (being the No 3 in Glos County Squash under 13s is a competitive lad and he wants to be there. You know what I mean)
Any way many thanks for the advise will keep you posted.
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Old 10 February 2003, 08:32   #19
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I have never raced seriously
Neither have I Mark, neither have I. Is all done for the fun of it and due to age possibly once or twice in a year. However, saying this one needs to be as competitive as he/she can be on the day. You agree??
I spoken to my mates in Falcon about the issue of the tanks and they are saying that for F£ racing in SAfrica they always use tanks mounted on the deck. Their justification is that there is easy access to the tanks and if a major repair is needed during a race it can be done there and then without much delay (which makes sense I recon).
The inspection hutch on the deck (to inspect the senders and a part of the lines) is not a problem on the constructual integrity of the boat. The problem arises however when one has to get a tank out for repairing as you would need to cut through the deck thus compromising the hull and the deck.
As you say though how many times that has happened?? Not much I don't think.
I will keep investigating and listening to see what I'll come up with at the end of it.
I promised to my son that he will be my co-driver and he wants to win (being the No 3 in Glos County Squash under 13s is a competitive lad and he wants to be there. You know what I mean)
Any way many thanks for the advise will keep you posted.
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Old 10 February 2003, 09:26   #20
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Manos, why are you double posting everything?
Anyway, what about some lateral thinking??
To extend the range in my boat I am going to do the following:
Purchase 2 x 70 L flexible (bladder) tanks, they use these on jet-fighter aircraft. Due to having 2 outboards I will require a twin set-up. On a lot of fuel filters you have 4 brass connections, 2 in and 2 out. I will plumb the bladder tanks directly to these individually with a tap in the line in case I need to turn the fuel off quickly. When I start my journey I will burn the 140L of fuel from these external tanks, once this has been used up, I will simply disconnect the pipes from the flexible tanks, roll them up, and stow them out the way and continue on on my main tanks. No fuss no bother, PLUS, I will not have bulky S/S, plastic or any other kind of tank hogging space when it is not required.
My good friend (please everyone, don't insult him) Paul Lemmer is the importer of these high quality flexible tanks and have them in stock. The 70L tanks are in the region of £220.00.
Just an idea to think about.
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