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Old 21 May 2011, 18:36   #11
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If you are going to mix and match new with pre owned then get a new engine on the back of a second hand hull.

The one gear failure at sea that will really cause you problems is rarely the trailer, hull, tubes seating or electronics.
Seconded. However,with a 10k budget I'd suggest that a well maintained complete used package is probably the best way to go. A new (even newish) engine isn't going to leave a huge amount for a boat and trailer so could easily turn into a money pit.
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So new engines never have problems and second hand ones are a disaster waiting to happen.

I would rather have a well maintained engine connected to a new fuel system than a brand new engine connected to old hoses, tanks etc.

Engines only come in a couple of variations, whereas seating layouts have nearly infinite possibilities. Finding a good engine on a budget is a whole lot easier than finding the right hull/tubes/seating/electronics.

As for trailers never causing problems, my own experience tells me that having a well set up trailer that has been cared for is worth having. Even if it doesn't stop your engine breaking down, it might mean you get more out of your boating.
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Old 22 May 2011, 05:51   #13
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So new engines never have problems and second hand ones are a disaster waiting to happen.
Err, no. What I'm saying is OP-specific. He doesn't seem to know a lot about what he wants-so a new(ish) motor with a service history and not much lifetime in which to have been abused is going to be a better bet than what you'd get for the change from 10k after paying for a new hull/tubes/seating/electronics.

Besides, the engine you'd get for the change is more than likely going to be pre-opti/etec and probably quite thirsty.
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Old 22 May 2011, 05:57   #14
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Imv, the only thing that you'll get new for 10k is the fuel and air that goes through it.

For 10k, or a bit less, you get a nice 5-5.5m, but not new, unless you're trawling the bargain brand end of the market.
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a new(ish) motor with a service history and not much lifetime in which to have been abused is going to be a better bet than what you'd get for the change from 10k
A good point
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For 10k, or a bit less, you get a nice 5-5.5m, but not new
You are right, I was overly optimistic as ever.

A local and Ribnetter recently picked up a very nice Ribeye 600 for this kind of money, the engine is pristine and the whole setup fits the bill nicely.
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So new engines never have problems and second hand ones are a disaster waiting to happen.

I would rather have a well maintained engine connected to a new fuel system than a brand new engine connected to old hoses, tanks etc.
You can gloss it up (with phrases like "well maintained" and "old hoses") but second hand is second hand and very few people will agree with you.

A new engine on an old boat is far preferable to an old engine on a new boat.

I would have thought someone that operated in the waters around your way would have appreciated that more than most people.
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You are right, I was overly optimistic as ever.

A local and Ribnetter recently picked up a very nice Ribeye 600 for this kind of money, the engine is pristine and the whole setup fits the bill nicely.
On the flip side, do you remember the truck dealer guy who popped-up on Ribnet a few months ago? He'd bought an old, tatty 5.8m Ribtec from a broker near me, with a pair of Yam 90s last seen on Flipper (TV Prog) for 7.5k. After then spending another 1250 having the trailer made roadworthy, he dragged the sorry heap back up t'North.

After I'd questioned his sanity, he reckoned that he'd searched for months for that particular 'bargain'.
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I would have thought someone that operated in the waters around your way would have appreciated that
The age of the engine is less of a factor than the care you take of it, and buying wisely in the first place is most important of all.

You say that a new engine is always better, I say it depends on the engine.
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The age of the engine is less of a factor than the care you take of it, and buying wisely in the first place is most important of all.

You say that a new engine is always better, I say it depends on the engine.


(Remembering that Bill Highwayman was selling 'new' Chryslers not long back... )
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