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Old 18 September 2008, 13:28   #11
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F4 was my first RIB, a fan for that reason only. Although on flat water with a biggish outboard the hole shot was very quick, however on rough water with a biggish outboard the air time was a bit much
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Old 18 September 2008, 14:37   #12
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F4 was my first RIB, a fan for that reason only. Although on flat water with a biggish outboard the hole shot was very quick, however on rough water with a biggish outboard the air time was a bit much
I had a Flatacraft (5M) 6o yam, and indeed have some fun,but would not put them in the same league as a Searider,which to me is a real sea going R.I.B.While in all honesty the Flatacrafts were limited.
They may well have been the first, and Tony Lee'Elliot,(the designer)was a trail blazer,and we all owe him,and others like him alot,but things have moved on,and if price is not your only criteria,SEA RIDER ALL THE WAY! I am sure you would not regret it.
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Old 19 September 2008, 02:43   #13
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I have a force 3 GT, it's my first rib and I have great fun with it.

It's looking tired and one of the tubes goes down after a couple of day's the hull has quite a few dings and It cost me about 200 including a 25HP johnson outboard.

But what FUN, I have to watch I don't stuffit when slowing down as the bow tend to dig in, I am rather large but at WOT the thing just fly's.

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Old 20 September 2008, 15:47   #14
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As you can probibly tell from my recent posts I'm looking at all kinds of boat.
Flatacraft seem to be very reasonably priced. I know there are allot of searider fans on here but how do Flatacraft compare?
Hi,we have an early force 3 which my 11 year old son loves taking out and following us.I have changed the seating arrangement which is so much better,really low and just like a cart feels like your going twice the speed.With a 15 mariner and so light it pulls a skier without any problem.Great fun.
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Old 12 February 2014, 11:40   #15
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Hi,

I know this is an old thread, but incase anyone's presently looking
at Flatacrafts, I thought i'd throw my experience in!

In the 4m category, where a 4m Avon Searider would equate to
a Flatacraft Force 4 - the Searider is undoubtedly the better offshore
and durable boat. I've had a Searider with a 50hp Evinrude and a Force 4
with a Mariner/Yamaha 55 - though to be fair was probably only putting
out 40hp! I'd go anywhere in the heavier and deeper-V Avon. While the
Flatacraft was more exciting in terms of acceleration and being lighter,
it was very 'slappy and slammy' in any chop.

Although not a practical concern, I must say I loved the Flatacraft for it's
'retro' design features which were way ahead of their time.
I wouldn't say this a fair overall judgement on Flatacraft though - I've also
had a Force 3 GT with a Yam 30, which although smaller than the Force 4,
was actually a much better sea boat with a very deep-V hull. I took this
around Start Point many times (Dartmouth-Salcombe) and it was very
comfortable - in a drysuit mind you!

Going back over 10 years ago, I remember my Dad's Force 6 Flatacraft.
They're rated for 150 hp, and in the name of good fun, he put a Yamaha
200 on it! (I must add, I'm not recommending this - he's very experienced).
And that was from the glorious 2-stroke V6 days. It flew - literally!!!
I remember helping him re-gel the deck and hull one Winter and I recall
transom being exceptionally thick with integrated supports and upon
upgrading the fuel capacity with s/s fuel tanks, I recall the decks being
about 3 inches thick! The tubes were very well made too.
Excuse me, having a nostalgic moment here!

I remember being a passenger on a Force 5 with a Yam 90 a couple of
times during a B.I.B.O.A cruise (are they still going?!) and for a leisure
RIB, it was remarkably comfortable in the rough. It was a Marshan 18
hull if I remember correctly. If a good example of a Force 5 came about
I'd snap it up straight away.
It sliced through chop like an old 7m Ribtec - before they foolishly
increased the beam!

I got excited about the near revival of Flatacraft a few years ago.
I think there was a lot of investment in design and retro-fitting a
jet-ski engine into a luxury tender. With an established brand name
and reputation, I would've liked to see some well built, no frills RIBs.

All those great hull and deck/console moulds must be laying around somewhere!
Any info would be appreciated, incase you hadn't noticed, I'm a bit of a fan.
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Old 12 February 2014, 15:55   #16
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I had a force 6 I bought it in 1989 from an outdoor centre who had abused it It was fitted with twin yam 60s which we eventually changed to 2*75 yams much better we took part in 4 round Scotland events numerous cruises and trailed to Greece Your correct it was very heavy built and basic but great sea boat was fairly dry (as you get older you get bigger and better windscreens) had 3 under (sort off) fuel tanks never had any problems with hull or tube that weren't my fault Always found TLE a gentleman I would have one again as a work dive fishing rib may find time to post some photos
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I have a soft spot for the Flatacrafts after making a set of tubes for them a few years ago. Attached below

I currently have a (to what I believe to be) Flatacraft Merlin? I cant seem to find much information on this model. I am going to be doing a total referb (retro style) on this rib but as of yet I have not had the time to do so. I will post pictures of the Flatacraft "Merlin" later
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Old 13 February 2014, 07:09   #18
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Hi, cheers for the replies!

Ah yes I remember now, the fuel tanks on a Force 6 sticking above
deck slightly, to be covered by the console and a 'fibreglass box'.
I wish I had some pictures to share!

Nice work on those tubes!
I remember entering a competition in Sportsboat magazine
(in the '90's?!) to win a Merlin with a Tohatsu 60 and ski pole
I'm pretty sure the hull is from a Marshan or Phantom 16?
I think it was quite a late model, much better hull than the
Force 4 / 4 GT which has a full length planing pad - you're
lucky to find one of those! Look forward to seeing some pics

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The one mentioned earlier with the twin 60 yams, did it have a yellow tube with something like ROC 21 on it??
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Old 13 February 2014, 14:33   #20
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Not yellow grey tubes and yellow hull rassay offshore centre the 21. Was possibly the length I bought it from Rassay
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