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Old 21 December 2009, 16:36   #31
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I think there is a wider issue here.

The boat was not capable of the planned journey.

The boat was not equipped for the journey.

The journey appears to have been undertaken by a crew who had no understanding of the magnitude of the task ahead.

The boat was, to them, unproven.

They did not have sufficient crew to organise watches.

The boat, almost certainly didn't have the required range.

There is no way that leislation could prevent this level of ignorance.

Off you go!
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More publicity of the incidents and an incentive to learn and train will help, but is not the panacea.
Wise words.

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but is not the panacea.
That's one of them squigley french breads, innit?
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As it stands the CG I believe could prosecute under SOLAS V.

Since SOLAS V covers leisure boaters.

Educate not Legislated.....

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As it stands the CG I believe could prosecute under SOLAS V.

Since SOLAS V covers leisure boaters.

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No need the RIBnet Court has already found them guilty. Subject to appeal they will be executed at 12 noon tomorrow.
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That's one of them squigley french breads, innit?
Nah: it's a cured Italian bacon

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They will be executed at 12 noon tomorrow.
..... and another endorsement for Charles Darwin
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Nah: it's a cured Italian bacon
Cured of what? We use only the healthy pigs for rashers.
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Could we nominate them for a Darwin award?


Or is it always awarded posthumously?
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They're hardly healthy if they've got rashes.....
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Or is it always awarded posthumously?
No you need to remove yourself from the gene pool (die or prevent reproduction). http://www.darwinawards.com/rules/

I actually think we're being a bit unfair to the couple involved. MCGA press releases always have an angle - they are never simple factual accounts of the rescue. So couple buy boat, couple begin to take boat home, couple get into difficulties, couple deploy anchor, couple call for help. The negatives are: (1) they broke down - but only after several hours of motoring so, without knowing the details its difficult to point the finger at them (2) they didn't use proper VHF procedure -- ok but that hardly makes them unique. perhaps 'she' was dealing with the CG whilst 'he' (who may be more experienced with the radio) was trying to fix the engine). (3) so they didn't have any flares on boat - for all we know they were supposed to be in the inventory when bought or a bag of stuff accidentally got left in the car at the start of the journey. (4) so the compass wasn't working? did they reasonably expect that the ships compass was true and then discover it wasn't? perhaps the VHF or a mobile phone speaker magnet was causing the problem - the middle of a distress call is probably not the best time to be establishing this - but at least they obviously had enough 'nous' to realise it was wrong. Perhaps their hand bearing compass was in the bag in the car with the flares etc...

I'm sure there are people on here who have at some point made errors of judgement or ploughed on when the wiser man would have returned to home, or forgotten some kit and gone out anyway.

Interestingly when 'one of our own' makes a f**k up we seem to say 'oh well everyones ok, its a great learning experience etc' but when someone else does it 'they are a complete idiot, and people like that should be banned from the water'.
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