Another killcord accident - Page 3

BogMonster · 02 September 2010, 22:03

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Originally Posted by C2 RIBS

What about an electronic kill cord, how good are they? This would mean walking aound the boat would be safer and only works if away from the RIB i.e fall over. How quickly do they kill the engine? Soon enough not to be hit by the prop?

I wondered that too - fall over side, rib zooms off, cuts out, circles back just coasting with its own momentum, back into range, killcord thinks "aha he's back on board" brrrrrrm thump

or is the system more intelligent than that?

HUMBER P4VWL · 03 September 2010, 15:17

I like your lateral thinking, but i doubt the engine would start in gear?

Otherwise it would be a pis#er. You fall out, it cuts out, you swim to it, just as you reach out, it starts and moves until it cuts out again, repeat process.

TangoTango · 03 September 2010, 15:31

surely it wouldn't re-start in gear or not.

Jizm · 03 September 2010, 15:41

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Originally Posted by TangoTango

surely it wouldn't re-start in gear or not.

Exactly my thinking...
Unless the wiring is altered, you will need to physically turn the key...

BogMonster · 03 September 2010, 17:05

Well I don't know about you but I seem to remember if you pull the killcord at speed my engine used to keep turning over until the boat had slowed down quite a lot, just with the wash of water past the prop, so if the ignition circuit was re-energised and the engine was still turning over over it could - at least in theory - fire again without turning the key? A bit like turning a car ignition off while driving, and then back on again, the engine will fire up again with turning it to the crank position.

Not an issue if you swim to it as it will be near enough stopped unless you are a hell of a swimmer

Poly · 03 September 2010, 17:44

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Originally Posted by BogMonster

Well I don't know about you but I seem to remember if you pull the killcord at speed my engine used to keep turning over until the boat had slowed down quite a lot, just with the wash of water past the prop, so if the ignition circuit was re-energised and the engine was still turning over over it could - at least in theory - fire again without turning the key? A bit like turning a car ignition off while driving, and then back on again, the engine will fire up again with turning it to the crank position.

Not an issue if you swim to it as it will be near enough stopped unless you are a hell of a swimmer

Steven - I think you are worrying about nothing - the wireless systems will almost certainly require some sort of "reset" action rather than just coming back alive when proximity is achieved.

I don't know if you can "bump start" an outboard as you suggest. I've always been under the impression that kill cord to the prop stopping was essentially instantaneous. You seem to have checked and noticed something different (with it in gear?). However this will almost certainly be an "issue" for a wireless system, as the "proximity" sensor only triggers at something like 20-30 ft... so you could pass through the mincer on the way to that distance. Of course if you try hard enough you can do that with tiller steered and possibly even small console steered boats.

Mollers · 03 September 2010, 18:35

I've 'bumped off' small aux engines plenty of times. I'd imagine that a big lump would do the same as Stephen suggests. Water passing through the prop will turn 'em over very effectively.

Bigmuz7 · 03 September 2010, 18:36

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Originally Posted by Polwart

Steven - I think you are worrying about nothing - the wireless systems will almost certainly require some sort of "reset" action rather than just coming back alive when proximity is achieved.

I don't know if you can "bump start" an outboard as you suggest. I've always been under the impression that kill cord to the prop stopping was essentially instantaneous. You seem to have checked and noticed something different (with it in gear?). However this will almost certainly be an "issue" for a wireless system, as the "proximity" sensor only triggers at something like 20-30 ft... so you could pass through the mincer on the way to that distance. Of course if you try hard enough you can do that with tiller steered and possibly even small console steered boats.

So the moral of the story when using a proximity system is to bend the knees and make sure if your gonna go ... you get some good air and make a clear jump

willk · 03 September 2010, 20:05

To return to the theme of the OP - a six year old boy has just died from his injuries following a wakeboarding incident in NI. Tough for those involved.

Clicky

sarahscottiedog · 04 September 2010, 21:15

So has anyone on here got or used a wireless system ? what did they thimk of them, where do I get one ? how much? and how easy to install ? .....................

Bigmuz7 · 04 September 2010, 21:35

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Originally Posted by sarahscottiedog

So has anyone on here got or used a wireless system ? what did they thimk of them, where do I get one ? how much? and how easy to install ? .....................

Looks like

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Originally Posted by RibRoy

We use www.coastkey.com. We have proof that it works

RibRoy is the only one so far AFAIK

must be more users ?

astra · 06 September 2010, 19:50

Some more news from the incident, http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk...l/article.html wishing all involved all the best and a quick recovery.

Mollers · 06 September 2010, 19:53

"Freak wave".

neilda · 06 September 2010, 23:37

"The experienced boater suffered bleeding on the brain.

He also had to have metal plates put in his skull and his eye socket rebuilt.

His brother said: "Ian had a bit of a relapse because there were problems with his blood pressure and he fainted a few times. He's not well enough to travel at the minute.

"He collapses when he stands but he's improved. You can have a conversation with him now.""

Jayzus!

A momentary lack of judgement and life changes substantially.

Mollers · 07 September 2010, 06:44

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Originally Posted by neilda

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A momentary lack of judgement and life changes substantially.

By several accounts, his "momentary lack of judgement" lasted for the duration of his stay at Pentewan, but anyway...

willk · 07 September 2010, 07:31

On the bright side, he'll be a one man Metoffice when he gets out :-O

willk · 12 September 2010, 11:05

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Originally Posted by willk

To return to the theme of the OP - a six year old boy has just died from his injuries following a wakeboarding incident in NI. Tough for those involved.

Clicky

...and yet another child fatality involving towables - Clicky

astra · 12 September 2010, 18:02

That sounds like sheet is going to hit the fan, no spotter, wtf

martini · 12 September 2010, 18:17

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Originally Posted by astra

That sounds like sheet is going to hit the fan, no spotter, wtf

Where did you get no spotter from? I cant find any mention of it

Edit: ignore me, I read it again, properly this time.

Mollers · 14 September 2010, 06:52

http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/news...l/article.html

Still banging on about the "freak wave".