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Old 02 September 2010, 18:03   #41
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What about an electronic kill cord, how good are they? This would mean walking aound the boat would be safer and only works if away from the RIB i.e fall over. How quickly do they kill the engine? Soon enough not to be hit by the prop?
I wondered that too - fall over side, rib zooms off, cuts out, circles back just coasting with its own momentum, back into range, killcord thinks "aha he's back on board" brrrrrrm thump

or is the system more intelligent than that?
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Old 03 September 2010, 11:17   #42
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I like your lateral thinking, but i doubt the engine would start in gear?

Otherwise it would be a pis#er. You fall out, it cuts out, you swim to it, just as you reach out, it starts and moves until it cuts out again, repeat process.
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surely it wouldn't re-start in gear or not.
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surely it wouldn't re-start in gear or not.
Exactly my thinking...
Unless the wiring is altered, you will need to physically turn the key...
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Well I don't know about you but I seem to remember if you pull the killcord at speed my engine used to keep turning over until the boat had slowed down quite a lot, just with the wash of water past the prop, so if the ignition circuit was re-energised and the engine was still turning over over it could - at least in theory - fire again without turning the key? A bit like turning a car ignition off while driving, and then back on again, the engine will fire up again with turning it to the crank position.

Not an issue if you swim to it as it will be near enough stopped unless you are a hell of a swimmer
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Well I don't know about you but I seem to remember if you pull the killcord at speed my engine used to keep turning over until the boat had slowed down quite a lot, just with the wash of water past the prop, so if the ignition circuit was re-energised and the engine was still turning over over it could - at least in theory - fire again without turning the key? A bit like turning a car ignition off while driving, and then back on again, the engine will fire up again with turning it to the crank position.

Not an issue if you swim to it as it will be near enough stopped unless you are a hell of a swimmer
Steven - I think you are worrying about nothing - the wireless systems will almost certainly require some sort of "reset" action rather than just coming back alive when proximity is achieved.

I don't know if you can "bump start" an outboard as you suggest. I've always been under the impression that kill cord to the prop stopping was essentially instantaneous. You seem to have checked and noticed something different (with it in gear?). However this will almost certainly be an "issue" for a wireless system, as the "proximity" sensor only triggers at something like 20-30 ft... so you could pass through the mincer on the way to that distance. Of course if you try hard enough you can do that with tiller steered and possibly even small console steered boats.
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I've 'bumped off' small aux engines plenty of times. I'd imagine that a big lump would do the same as Stephen suggests. Water passing through the prop will turn 'em over very effectively.
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Steven - I think you are worrying about nothing - the wireless systems will almost certainly require some sort of "reset" action rather than just coming back alive when proximity is achieved.

I don't know if you can "bump start" an outboard as you suggest. I've always been under the impression that kill cord to the prop stopping was essentially instantaneous. You seem to have checked and noticed something different (with it in gear?). However this will almost certainly be an "issue" for a wireless system, as the "proximity" sensor only triggers at something like 20-30 ft... so you could pass through the mincer on the way to that distance. Of course if you try hard enough you can do that with tiller steered and possibly even small console steered boats.
So the moral of the story when using a proximity system is to bend the knees and make sure if your gonna go ... you get some good air and make a clear jump
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To return to the theme of the OP - a six year old boy has just died from his injuries following a wakeboarding incident in NI. Tough for those involved.

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So has anyone on here got or used a wireless system ? what did they thimk of them, where do I get one ? how much? and how easy to install ? .....................
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