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Old 13 July 2006, 13:01   #31
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Just thought....

Does anyone here emphasise the use of throw or drift lines for conscious casualties? Do people carry either or both made up on the boat? Neither is on the RYA syllabus.
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Old 13 July 2006, 14:00   #32
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Just thought....

Does anyone here emphasise the use of throw or drift lines for conscious casualties? Do people carry either or both made up on the boat? Neither is on the RYA syllabus.
Yup always show it as part of the boats equipment on the Level 2(though not in the syllabus) and it is part of the RLSS Rescue Boat Equipment . It is loosley covered in the Safety Boat syllabus in rescuing other water users .They are a excellent addition to anyones kit .
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Old 13 July 2006, 15:25   #34
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Today I spoke to the guy who was driving the boat and he quite graphically explained what happened.

The power boat, which is a 30ft Cabin cruiser with an inboard engine, was waiting for the lock at Hythe Marina. The helm, who is the owner of the boat had had it approximately a week but this was not his first boat, he has had several power boats but this was his first with an inboard. His mate was on his Jet Ski nearby and decided he fancied a swim so jumped in and was swimming around not far from the boat. The boat at this point was in gear with low revs. The helm had noticed his mate in the water but was concentrating on handling the boat. Meanwhile the jet skier had swum round to the back of the boat without indicating to the helm what he was going to do. He attempted to pull himself onto the small bathing platform on the back of the boat and as he did so his legs swung under the boat and his leg caught the propeller.

The helm of the boat said he felt something like the boat was grounding so he killed the engine and he heard his mate shouting for help. He went to the back of the boat and pulled his mate out the water. One of his legs was missing from the knee downwards but his foot was still attached by a tendern just dangling. His other legs had gashes and he's had to have some skin grafts around his ankle. Other than a few stitches one leg is fine. The helm used a rope to tie round the stump of the leg to stem the bleeding, aparently causing more discomfort to the jet skier than the missing leg.

From this it sounds like an unfortunate accident caused mainly by the jet skier trying to climb out and his legs swimging under. It is possible to put blame on the helm for not keeping an eye on the person in the water but he was approaching a lock and was preoccupied. There are many what if's, buts, etc and unfortunately a moment in lapse of concentration / awareness has cost a man his leg and completely changed his life.

The jet skier is aparently is very high spirits and the day after was joking about how the crabs got a good feed. He is due out of hopsital in a week and has persuaded his mate not to sell the boat which was his initial intention. He apparently wants to get back out on the water as soon as possible.

I hope his recovery goes well and we all learn a lesson / reiterate some important safety measures while out on the water.
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Incredible - hopefully he will get on with his life and do as much as he can. I have seen a pro mountain biker with only 1 leg - the jumps he goes over are amazing.
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I have seen a pro mountain biker with only 1 leg - the jumps he goes over are amazing.
There was a guy with one arm at the student downhill champs, much faster than I was!
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I pick up divers a lot with our club boat, we never turn the engine off but always recover with engine in neutral, usually the helm has to pull the divers equipment in so the killcord is disconnected from them too.

Once alongside the boat drifts onto or slightly away from either divers or a casualty, depending on what it is you need to do.
Madness what happens when the engine is ACCIDENTLY put in gear ?
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Madness what happens when the engine is ACCIDENTLY put in gear ?
Recovering a diver + kit (or MOB with an injury) isn't going to be a 15 second task. IT does take several minutes for a pair of divers to de-kit in the water and pass equipment into the boat. During this time if its windy the boat will drift faster than a diver in the water. Therefore you may have to use the engine to maintain your position relative to the person in the water. One reason we spend alot of time practicing control along side an object in the water on a PB2 course.

Yes you are right one day there might be an accident, but there have been far more incidents at the surface at the end of a dive which is why the priority will always be to get the diver back on the boat first. Keeping the engine running is a personal choice, one that I and lots of other clubs are happy with.

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Just thought....

Does anyone here emphasise the use of throw or drift lines for conscious casualties? Do people carry either or both made up on the boat? Neither is on the RYA syllabus.

One of these mounted next to my helm.

Only used it once, glad it was there - made it easier, but could have managed without.
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