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03 February 2008, 14:41
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Anchoring
Hi
On a course today (the students are in the other class room now), we got in to a long discussion over Anchoring. For an average size RIB I have allways been a fan of a decent anchor, 3 - 5m of chain and 3 - 4 times the max depth depending on conditions and carrying 30 - 40m of Anchor Warp and allways being able to join with the other warps on the boat.
What do you use?
I see the "Start Powerboating" book (you know the one without a section on tides) reccomends 6 x the depth.
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Jono (very much a 4 x fan) Garton
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03 February 2008, 14:54
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Pretty much the same as you. My anchor is a bit smaller than it should be (small anchor locker) but I've only ever had trouble with getting it to hold in short chop. Once it's in, it holds ok.
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03 February 2008, 15:42
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I've got a Bruce and a CQR, both above minimum size for the boat, both with chain (8m on each) then warp. I tend to put down about 5x depth as either all chain or chain + warp.
I just don't think anchors are something to be stinted on. It's not so bad if you're stopping for a picnic or a swim, but if I lost power on a lee shore with breaking waves I want to be pretty certain I'm going to hold.
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03 February 2008, 15:59
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Hi
So if you anchor in 15m of water, you put down 75m of chain  what boat have you got?
I agree its better to be safe, but if you got your life jacket caught in 20m of chain and an anchor, im not convinced you would float???
Jono
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03 February 2008, 16:33
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i'm with you on this Jono, 1kg anchor weight for each metre of boat length ( I like Bruce types best). Anchor chain equal to boat length, and 50m of rope (10mm is strong enough for most RIBs under 7m long)
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03 February 2008, 16:35
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I have a 4m boat, and IIRC it carries a 4.5 kg Danforth with 5 m of 6mm chain and 30m of 8mm rope. Never had it slip - but never been tested in really bad weather (>F4) either. I don't have a depth sounder (but do carry a home made "lead line") and try to put out 5x depth as scope.
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03 February 2008, 16:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Polwart
I have a 4m boat, and IIRC it carries a 4.5 kg Danforth
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Is it anchor wieght or surface area and design that counts? I use a Fortress, Danforth style which is made from Ally. lighter but large surface area.
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03 February 2008, 16:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yoyo
Is it anchor wieght or surface area and design that counts? I use a Fortress, Danforth style which is made from Ally. lighter but large surface area.
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both - but you are right you need less weight if you are comparing ali to steel. mine is steel.
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03 February 2008, 17:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jono Garton
So if you anchor in 15m of water, you put down 75m of chain  what boat have you got?
Jono
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One with the prop out of the water
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03 February 2008, 17:59
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Anchor weight is mainly to aid penetration. Surface area is definitely what counts unless you are anchoring on rock where a grapnel or fishermans is great.
I carry 2x 60m of 16mm octoplait - mainly because the bigger diameter is easier on the hands. My working anchor is a 5kg Bruce just attached direct to the rope. it works fine in most conditions. For emergency use I have a 6kg Delta copy with 8m of very heavy chain(can't remember size). Obviously if I need to I can join the 2 lengths of rope together so I have 128m in total which is 420' in real money.
A 3x scope is fine in most conditions with chain. In storm conditions even 5 or 7x may not be enough.
Remember chain is only there to keep the pull horizontal so a short length of heavy chain will be better than a long length of lighter stuff. Of course chain is pretty wear resistant!!!
I suppose this is why an angel is a good idea.
In South Wales especially the waters are very shallow. 100' is about the most we get. Imagine people living in places like Tenerife - 1/2 a mile out you get 14,000'.........
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