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Old 25 June 2003, 07:44   #31
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Hi Kitten ,

I made an estimated guess that you weren't too sensitive !!!!

Nice website by the way !

Best wishes,

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Just here for the Craic (s)! as we say in Ireland !!!
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Old 25 June 2003, 14:14   #32
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Stuart,
Never been very sensitive or any other word beginning with sense for that matter.
If I was would I have that photo on the website? Trust me you'll know if I ever get the hump.

I just feel that there are too many myths and old wives tales surrounding boat building and in particular repairs, spread mainly by people who have obviously never seen it done right. If the fix is done correctly it may be better than the original, if not it may well be worse.

Things like Jwalkers trick with the masonry nail. Good tip for areas not under too much stress but all those raised fibers and fractured resin will create a resin rich interface, depending on the resin used this may not be such a bad thing But if you are using a brittle resin, then it is a bad thing.

Fairing back the repair for a nice long way is good, but in woven roving once you cut the strands youíve lost the strength so you also have to overlap, could you tell if there were rovings in a csm sandwich, and if so what sort? The list could go on.

(Jwalker I am not putting down what you say, just using it as an example)
This particular problem is not in need of a repair, it's a fault in need of a cure there is a difference.

Manos, If you get three different people to look at it you will probably get three different answers, all will be best guess because you wonít want them to cut it open to see the extent of the damage if they are not going to sort out the problem. Read any surveyors report and they will have a get out clause about destructive investigation.

JK how about section based on boat services, where members can praise good work and damn the cowboys?
Then people will have half a chance of knowing who they can trust, or who to avoid.


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Old 25 June 2003, 14:16   #33
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With all due respect to all, I think that the majority of people here (except from VERY FEW) are not experts on building RIBs or anything much really and whatever advise you get needs 3ple verification (trust been there, done that and unfortunately got the T-shirt ) but have learned my lesson.

Well said Manos. And you would know a pratt when you saw one, wouldn't you?

Cheeky bug**r.


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JK how about section based on boat services, where members can praise good work and damn the cowboys?
Then people will have half a chance of knowing who they can trust, or who to avoid.
It's something on my list of future developments for the site. Not sure when it will see the light of day though . . .

In the meantime reports of good or bad service are welcome on the forum. Just make sure that any bad reports are strictly factual and not libellous! The great thing about the forums is that everyone has an automatic right of reply so it shouldn't be too much of a problem

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Old 25 June 2003, 14:32   #35
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Kitten, that's ok. As you obviously realised, my reply was not intended to be a step be step guide to the fine detail involved.

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Update:

Iím taking to the RIB to the manufacturers on Monday so they can have alook. They seem willing to solve the problem at the moment.

Will let you know the outcome of Mondays meeting.

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Old 28 June 2003, 07:29   #37
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That sounds positive... good luck.
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Old 29 June 2003, 07:03   #38
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Another interesting thread and varied comments.

Fact. ALL FIBREGLASS BOATS WILL DEVELOP STRESS CRACKS AT SOME TIME OF ITS LIFE.

FACT. THIS IS MORE COMMON ON OUTBOARD MOTORED BOATS BECAUSE OF THE CENTRE OF GRAVITY.

FACT. A BOAT THAT HAS BEEN REPAIRED BY A RESPECTABLE LAMINATER IS OFTEN BETTER THAN NEW BECAUSE HE RECTIFIES THE MANUFACTURS MISTAKES.

AND THE BIGGEST FACT ABOUT CRACKS IS.

There is a RIB going around called the "The Shrink" it is now in the ownership of the new man in charge of Clarence marina.
This boat was built in 1991 and was one of the first Big Ribs ever built. It has been places and done things that is hard to imagine.
It has been sunk on more occasions than I can remember washed up on the shore at Hayling Island. fallen off of trailors, hit things run aground and generaly had a very hard life.
It is covered in stress cracks but is as strucualy sound as the day it was built. Conclusion, buy a boat that has been built right in the first place. Alan P
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Old 29 June 2003, 07:50   #39
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HHHMMMNNNnnnnn!! The gospel according to Allan Priddy!
Personally I'm not religous, as I think it's all fiction!...I'll just stick wit my 'crackless' boat thanks!
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Perhaps you should consider driving your boat a little harder and see what happens? I wonder what will give in first, the driver or the boat? Alan P
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