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Old 07 November 2013, 15:07   #71
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Just out of interest, did you ever have anything to do with a commercial operation at Lulworth?

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If you mean the Jurrasic kayak tours, then no. I kayak alone, as I believe it's safer. Having said that, I can self rescue, carry waterproof VHF, paddle float, Throw line. I also practise capzise drill in rough sea conditions by the RNLI lookouts on the beach in rough sea. My kayak is a Sit on top, not such good performance as a sit inside but much easier to self rescue. Go over in a sea kayak and miss the roll then you have problems.
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Old 07 November 2013, 15:15   #72
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Sorry but I think a lifeboat would be able to cope with a 3ft swell, 25mph wind and a moderate sea without putting the crew or anyone else at risk. Having written that those would not be acceptable conditions for me to go out.
Less of the dramatics please.
There is inherent risk every time a lifeboat launches. It is generally low but even in 'innocuous' training exercises people have been seriously hurt. Similarly every time a helicopter takes off to go and look for someone in trouble. Add to that the inconvenience (and potential loss of earnings) for the volunteer Lifeboat and CG guys and you'd need to be pretty selfish to head out in a situation where you expected to need help. Anyone can find themself in trouble, but that is not the seem at running straight into it when everyone was waring you off.

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I certainly would not go in wind against tide unless the wind speed was very low or I could get around at slack water.
On such a long trip, in a 'new' boat and with a restricted daylight window you'd be doing incredibly well to also combine the hard parts of the journey with the best possible conditions. Good planning could deliver that - but given you have yet to gain the experience necessary to know what speed and fuel consumption is possible I can't see how you could plan a passage with the precision necessary to be sure to get the best conditions.

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Oh please cut the dramtics.
whilst that might be how many people talk to each other on the internet - I suggest you spend some time reading the threads in here and see what normal behaviour is. I like to think of RIBnet as being a little bit like a sailing club bar. Almost everyone is welcome, but as with any pub it makes sense to understand the ambiance, etiquette and social norms before barking at the inhabitants. Otherwise once you've upset the locals it can be a bit difficult to fit in and make yourself comfortable.
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Old 07 November 2013, 15:16   #73
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So..let's leave any catiness behind?

There's several of us in and around Poole and Bournemouth. I used to wheel my 3m Avon to the slip at Christchurch...with an 8 hp two stoke and with kit in it for a day out it was quite hard...and that was on flat tarmac.

When it arrives with you and you're going out pm or post in the cruise section... happy to come out etc, take pics etc.

Where are you thinking of wheeling it to? As I'm sure you know the beach can have a good sized break....we had fun with a jet Avon coming on the beach during the airshow...fun= swamping it! And we didn't have to think about a prop sticking out!
I would use the slip at Christchurch if the surf was up. Bit wary of the run. Alright going in, it's the coming out with an ebb tide and not sure of the sandbank. Got caught out on my kayak there. Least with a rib I'll have an engine. Yes, get some nice weather and we could meet. I have some bodies I can call on to help me. I'll work something out before the season starts as to the best way to get it to the water.
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Old 07 November 2013, 15:18   #74
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There is inherent risk every time a lifeboat launches. It is generally low but even in 'innocuous' training exercises people have been seriously hurt. Similarly every time a helicopter takes off to go and look for someone in trouble. Add to that the inconvenience (and potential loss of earnings) for the volunteer Lifeboat and CG guys and you'd need to be pretty selfish to head out in a situation where you expected to need help. Anyone can find themself in trouble, but that is not the seem at running straight into it when everyone was waring you off.

On such a long trip, in a 'new' boat and with a restricted daylight window you'd be doing incredibly well to also combine the hard parts of the journey with the best possible conditions. Good planning could deliver that - but given you have yet to gain the experience necessary to know what speed and fuel consumption is possible I can't see how you could plan a passage with the precision necessary to be sure to get the best conditions.

whilst that might be how many people talk to each other on the internet - I suggest you spend some time reading the threads in here and see what normal behaviour is. I like to think of RIBnet as being a little bit like a sailing club bar. Almost everyone is welcome, but as with any pub it makes sense to understand the ambiance, etiquette and social norms before barking at the inhabitants. Otherwise once you've upset the locals it can be a bit difficult to fit in and make yourself comfortable.
There is an inherent risk in crossing the road!
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I would use the slip at Christchurch if the surf was up. Bit wary of the run. Alright going in, it's the coming out with an ebb tide and not sure of the sandbank. Got caught out on my kayak there. Least with a rib I'll have an engine. Yes, get some nice weather and we could meet. I have some bodies I can call on to help me. I'll work something out before the season starts as to the best way to get it to the water.
Ace. I'm hoping to be at xch Sunday. The runs ok and they seem to have the channel marked all year round now. So less guesswork!

Always good fun when it's in full flow!...at least it's easy to pull up the beach if it looks rough :-)
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There is inherent risk every time a lifeboat launches. It is generally low but even in 'innocuous' training exercises people have been seriously hurt. Similarly every time a helicopter takes off to go and look for someone in trouble. Add to that the inconvenience (and potential loss of earnings) for the volunteer Lifeboat and CG guys and you'd need to be pretty selfish to head out in a situation where you expected to need help. Anyone can find themself in trouble, but that is not the seem at running straight into it when everyone was waring you off.

On such a long trip, in a 'new' boat and with a restricted daylight window you'd be doing incredibly well to also combine the hard parts of the journey with the best possible conditions. Good planning could deliver that - but given you have yet to gain the experience necessary to know what speed and fuel consumption is possible I can't see how you could plan a passage with the precision necessary to be sure to get the best conditions.

whilst that might be how many people talk to each other on the internet - I suggest you spend some time reading the threads in here and see what normal behaviour is. I like to think of RIBnet as being a little bit like a sailing club bar. Beaufort wind force scale.
Get over yourself Admiral, it's not the RYA.
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Ace. I'm hoping to be at xch Sunday. The runs ok and they seem to have the channel marked all year round now. So less guesswork!

Always good fun when it's in full flow!...at least it's easy to pull up the beach if it looks rough :-)
Let me know if you go and the time. Just checked the surf for Sun and I'll kayak around.
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Get over yourself Admiral, it's not the RYA.
You asked for advice, so here's some:

You are not here by any right or entitlement, you are here as a guest and the moderators are your hosts. They volunteer a substantial amount of their time to keep the forums running smoothly and deserve your respect. You don't have to agree with them, but if you behave unpleasantly towards them you will find that you are no longer welcome to take part here.
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You asked for advice, so here's some:

You are not here by any right or entitlement, you are here as a guest and the moderators are your hosts. They volunteer a substantial amount of their time to keep the forums running smoothly and deserve your respect. You don't have to agree with them, but if you behave unpleasantly towards them you will find that you are no longer welcome to take part here.
I give repect to those who earn it. I don't give respect to someone who by there position think they are entitled to it. As for me worrying about being banned, try this out, fill a bucket with water put vyourhand in and swish it about. See how much you can disturb the water. Now, take your hand out and see how long the water takes to settle. That is the same amount of time that I will worry.
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