Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 
Old 03 June 2010, 12:39   #1
SK1
Member
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Length: no boat
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 1
Advice for a beginner

Hi,

I am thinking of getting a small boat, but have no idea where to start. I don't want anything fancy - something small, portable, safe, able to get me & my friend in, & suitable for Lochs and inshore.

Also - no idea what the rules are around this. Do I need training, or to get a license?

Many thanks for any advice you can give.
__________________
SK1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03 June 2010, 13:05   #2
RIBnet supporter
 
donegaldan's Avatar
 
Country: Ireland
Town: Donegal
Boat name: Deep Six
Make: Redbay Stormforce
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki 140 4/stroke
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 178
Send a message via Skype™ to donegaldan
Courses

Consider doing RYA Level 1 and Level 2 (Powerboat i assume)
Some form of navigation course,
First aid (would be responsible)
Marine Radio certificate (illegal to operate one without)
Marine Insurance

A friendly person with good local knowledge that can go out with you, and show you your area, and the ropes.

As for boats, I'f you ask that question here i guarantee you will have plenty answers for your first time boats, mine was a little 4 meter searider.
The rest of the ribnetters will add their 10 cents in that conversation.

Sometime we can go over on courses, etc, but if its not in your blood and not in your background, sometimes paying for courses is the only taught exposure you can get to the subejct.

Hope this breaks the ice and some of the others add their bit.
Happy boating
DonegalDan
__________________
donegaldan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03 June 2010, 18:45   #3
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Bury
Boat name: O' ALCHEMY
Make: Honwave 3.8 IE
Length: 3m +
Engine: Honda 15hp 4 stroke
MMSI: 235905781
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 134
Best advice I can give is ..........................SAVE UP THOSE ££££££S
__________________
jake 4589 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03 June 2010, 19:23   #4
RIBnet admin team
 
Nos4r2's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 13,053
RIBase
Quote:
Originally Posted by jake 4589 View Post
Best advice I can give is ..........................SAVE UP THOSE ££££££S
Plus expect everything to cost 3 times as much!
__________________
Need spares,consoles,consumables,hire,training or even a new boat?

Please click HERE and HERE and support our Trade Members.

Join up as a Trade member or Supporter HERE
Nos4r2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03 June 2010, 19:36   #5
RIBnet admin team
 
Poly's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,622
Your first question is probably SIB or RIB? Which will depend on where you want to use it, where you want to store it, the sort of weather you might go out in, the number of people who will be on it, your budget, etc
__________________
Poly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03 June 2010, 21:37   #6
SPR
Member
 
SPR's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Central Belt of Scotland
Boat name: Puddleduck III
Make: Bombard
Length: 5m +
Engine: 50 HP
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,066
Forget about RYA Powerboat Level I, the RYA level II covers all of Level I in more detail.

If you find a club, or know people with boats try them out first.

Make sure you buy Life Jackets! and remember useless unless worn!


regards

S.
__________________
SPRmarine / SPRtraining
RYA Training Courses & Safety Equipment Sales
SPR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03 June 2010, 22:28   #7
RIBnet Supporter
 
willk's Avatar
 
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,666
Quote:
Originally Posted by donegaldan View Post
marine insurance
:d
__________________
willk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04 June 2010, 09:01   #8
Member
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: Wildheart
Make: Humber/Delta Seasafe
Length: 5m +
Engine: Merc 60 Clamshell
MMSI: 235068449
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 4,667
Hello & welcome!

It sounds like you may be new to boating, as opposed to just new to ribs. As Pol says, there are many differnet flavours of inflatable boat out there, and what works for me might not work gfor you or the next person.

Assuming you are totally new, yes, I'd second the RYA L2 powerboat as a good start. The rest of the list will depend what you are planning.

For example, if you are planning on cruising the midlands canals, a VHF is going to be a waste of cash. Likewise if you are pottering around small local lakes, a course in offshore navigation is also going to be up there with the chocolate teapots.

The other good thing about the course is they will probably take you out in various different powered craft, so will giove you an idea of what's out there.

have a trawl round the forums, and you'll get a feel for what can & can't be done. If you are looking smal & light, a SIB might be a better bet, and for a starter there are plenty of new packages out there at not silly prices. If it;s just two of you, a 2.5-3m SIB will be suffiicient. If / when you get more adventurous, you can use it to fund the next size up!


As for licences etc, you dont need one, but the L2 is worth doing. You mat need to register the boat depending on the lake / loch, (e.g windermere / Loch Lomond being two famous examples) however for the sea, no reg. required. I'd sugest 3rd party insurance as a minimum. Whether you go "fully comp" or not will depend on your views on the likellihood of it getting nicked vs the extra premium.
__________________
9D280 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04 June 2010, 12:14   #9
Member
 
Lets go boating's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Staffordshire
Boat name: Pacific 9134
Make: Halmatic
Length: 6m +
Engine: 300hp Suzuki
MMSI: 232043887
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 623
powerboat 2 is a real good starter, one thing i will mention is that, if you do the course on inland waters it will not count if you go on te sea with it, so i would advise to do it on the coast and then that will cover you for both, its maily so you can learn how tides work and various bits and bobs, and then once you have done that get somebody to go out with for the first time just for if you forget anything, as it can be alot to tak in in the period of a 2 day course such as a level 2.

cheers mf
__________________
Photographer and Youtuber @challengebritain
www.challengebritain.uk
Lets go boating is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04 June 2010, 12:41   #10
RIBnet admin team
 
Poly's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,622
Quote:
Originally Posted by Martha Focker View Post
powerboat 2 is a real good starter, one thing i will mention is that, if you do the course on inland waters it will not count if you go on te sea with it, so i would advise to do it on the coast and then that will cover you for both, its maily so you can learn how tides work and various bits and bobs, and then once you have done that get somebody to go out with for the first time just for if you forget anything, as it can be alot to tak in in the period of a 2 day course such as a level 2.

cheers mf
Whilst "MFs" comments are right - in reality the PB2 course doesn't "count" for anything anyway unless you are wanting to hire a boat somewhere. The certificate will state it was performed on inland waters, I'd be surprised if the instructor didn't cover tides etc if he knew you were planning to use it at sea. Even places like the school at the tall ship in the centre of Glasgow (who's name I forgotten - but the Principal, Gregor, posts on here with the name Speedy) count as "Coastal" though. When I did my course with him I took my own boat along and we used it on the end of the second day for launch and recovery, and some of the practical stuff - which was great to get experience under a watchful eye with the actual set up I was going to use. I'm sure that any of the specialist schools (like Ian at SeaSkills on here [based in Oban and N Berwick]) would be equally flexible. A larger training centre like Port Edgar, Cumbrae or one of the Sailing Clubs may not be able to be so flexible if they are putting 12 students through a course at once.
__________________
Poly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05 June 2010, 06:06   #11
Member
 
SeaSkills's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Oban (mostly)
Make: Ribcraft, Humber,BWM
Length: 5m +
Engine: Outboards
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 632
Send a message via Skype™ to SeaSkills
Quote:
Originally Posted by Polwart View Post
Even places like the school at the tall ship in the centre of Glasgow (who's name I forgotten - but the Principal, Gregor, posts on here with the name Speedy)
Seaforce

Quote:
Originally Posted by Polwart View Post
I'm sure that any of the specialist schools (like Ian at SeaSkills on here [based in Oban and N Berwick]) would be equally flexible.
Certainly. Give me a call if you want to discuss anything. We'd be pleased to help.

Ian
__________________
SEASKILLS TRAINING
Web; www.seaskills.co.uk
Email; info@seaskills.co.uk
Tel; 07525 012 013
SeaSkills is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05 June 2010, 12:03   #12
Member
 
Country: Norway
Town: stavanger
Boat name: Maria
Make: grand
Length: 3m +
Engine: outboard
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2
Help

Im thinking of replacing my old rib. Wich is a grand s300 with a 9,9hp/15 evinrud. Iv been looking at a arimar 10foot with a suzuki 9,9/15. Does anyone know if it is good or bad quality? and is the engine gutsy enough??
__________________
Superboy64 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




All times are GMT. The time now is 21:31.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.