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Old 21 May 2007, 08:47   #1
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Aberdyfi to Pwllheli Trip Advice

I am hoping to do a few more longer trips this summer as I have done an avanced powerboat course which has given me more confidence to go a bit further afield. The trip i would really like to do is Aberdyfi to Pwllheli. I asked a simlar question to this last year and the general recommendation was to go via Sarn-y-Bwch, the Sarn Badrig cardinal bouys having looked at the chart I would prefer if possible to stick closer into the coastline, is it possible to cross the causeways closer into land as this would be safer in a smaller boat. Is this possible.

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Old 21 May 2007, 14:49   #2
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Hi James

You can pass inside st paddys causway or cross both causways at +-3 hours hw Pwllheli, be aware of wind over tide if crossing the causways.

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Old 22 May 2007, 01:29   #3
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Hi

This is almost the same trip as we did yesterday (Pwllheli/Barmouth/Pwllheli).

As Jono says, you can go across the causway and there are "gaps" every now and then - I'm presuming you have a plotter/GPS to find them. It can get rough over the top, although yesterday the causway was acting like a massive underwater breakwater causing the water on the leeward side to be like a millpond for a mile or two afterwards.

You may want to go across it quite slowly at first as the depth changes from 20m ish to 2m or less in seconds! - it's quite disconcerting the first time you do it.

We did the return Barmouth to Pwllheli along the coast as you suggest. We stayed a mile or two off and there was nothing we encountered to worry about. The "inshore passage" at the NE end of the causway is wide and easy. We just went through the middle of the gap on the plotter and you would not have known there was anything there.

Like Jono said - wind over tide can make both quite rough. If you're staying close in to the coast Barmouth Bar and particularly Porthmadog Bar can be rough as hell so watch them.

It's a lovely trip with the most fantastic scenery - hope you enjoy it.
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Thanks SpottyDog

I am planning to get get a handheld gps soon so i am a bit safer on the navigation side of things. I have experienced Aberdyfi bar so i know how rough it can be at times. Do you think a 3.5m boat will be able to handle the conditions i will encouter. I am planing to do the trip at about 16-18kts.

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As with any trip like this, it is impossible to say due to conditions on the day. The only thing I would say though is that if you decide to go in a straight line - across or round the SW end of the causeway - then you will be 12 or 13 miles from land when you're in the middle!! I'm not sure I'd want to do that in a boat that size unless I had another one for company. Hugging the coast seems a much more sensible idea. This way is much more interesting than just ploughing across miles of open sea and is not a lot further. Most of the coastline is sandhills/beaches as well so you could get off if you wanted to.

Don't even consider the trip until you have a GPS of some sort as the last time I did it, it was a beautiful day but the haze only gave 1/2 mile viz, so you could have been anywhere!!

We are based in Pwllheli so it's a pity you are not doing the trip the other way round or we would have kept you company! Let us know if and when you plan to do it and if we can we'll come and meet you.
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Thanks for the offer spottydog

If i get the gps sorted i may be able to meet you in barmouth and cruise back up to pwllheli with you.

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That sounds good. Let us know. We are normally around Sun, Mon or Tues.

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Hi James,

Just reading through the thread again....... just wanted to make it clear that the notes I gave were for St. Patricks Causeway (Sarn Badrig) NOT Sarn y Bwch. I've not been down to Aberdyfi yet so cannot comment on crossing/rounding that one.

I would have thought though (as Jono says) that at high(ish) water there should be no problem.

Heres hoping the weather gets better than this!!!!
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