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Old 16 October 2007, 14:02   #11
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Rule 5 I think, should prevail. 'Lookout'. BUT..........from both parties? Was fishing vessel not under command, at anchor, restricted in her abililty to manouver etc . Did the yacht owner 'blow in a bag'!!!!! Have MAIB been informed?
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Old 16 October 2007, 15:35   #12
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Thanks for all your views. His boat was anchored just inshore of West Lepe near the Beaulieu river where the shallow water starts. This is just outside the main channel. The yacht was a well known sail training boat sailed by a qualified skipper, made of steel and weighing in at 53 tons. No contest against a 6m bayliner.

This also raises a question. My rib is over 7m so do I have to raise an anchor ball whenever I am at anchor. If so where do I hang it so that it can be seen. Does anyone use one?
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Old 16 October 2007, 15:55   #13
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Thanks for all your views. His boat was anchored just inshore of West Lepe near the Beaulieu river where the shallow water starts. This is just outside the main channel. The yacht was a well known sail training boat sailed by a qualified skipper, made of steel and weighing in at 53 tons. No contest against a 6m bayliner.

This also raises a question. My rib is over 7m so do I have to raise an anchor ball whenever I am at anchor. If so where do I hang it so that it can be seen. Does anyone use one?
Sounds like a Challenge boat to me.
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Old 16 October 2007, 15:58   #14
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..... sailed by a qualified skipper, made of steel and weighing in at 53 tons.
Sounds like a big bloke

I'd have apologised for getting in his way and left sharply
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Old 16 October 2007, 16:29   #15
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He shouted and the skipper looked up
If that bit's 100% accurate then it's hardly going to have made any difference if your mate had any number of balls or lights showing.
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Was it a charter yacht? eg coded because I would be having a word with the MCA in that case. Hope your mate has it insured.

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Might be worth having a bucket full of flares on the standby. At least you'd have something to fire at them or if the worst happened and you ended up in the water you'd have a visual marker.

This happened to a charter fishing boat I was on several years ago. The Yacht did manage to miss us, but did catch the Anchor rope and drag the fishing Michell 36 along for a while till the rope became unsnagged. Skipper reported the Yacht in question to the coastgaurds and then to MCA (not sure it was called that back then), he did have a little damage to the bow roller and handrail.
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I wasn't on this particular sailing boat but...

I wasn't on this particular sailing boat but...

Many years ago I was sailing in a Thames barge from Gravesend to Harwich. Beautiful day with the wind behind us and going along at 13 knots. Many of us enjoying a glass of wine etc.. It was then that we noticed this strange noise, sounded like a fog horn. It was a fog horn and we were bearing down on a fisherman anchored in the estuary. His timely action allowed us to change course and avoid a nasty collision (for him, not us).

No question that we should have had a proper look-out but since then I have always been careful to keep an eye out when at anchor.
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Old 17 October 2007, 15:57   #19
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hello all

I WAS in this boat - The Bayliner!!!

Thank you all for your views and thoughts on this whole sorry matter.

For obvious reasons I cannot name names as the owners of the 53 ton yacht have still to respond to my communication attempts.

Enough to say that we, my wife and three children (8, 10 & 13) are very lucky to be here. This was the most frightening experience and one which will take along time to fade in memory.

Regarding keeping a lookout, yes, 100%. I owe my thanks to my wife who at least attracted the attention of the lady at the yachts helm and her 25 degree turn averted a direct bow to bow hit which would have been far more serious.

Regarding a fishing vessel. we are a 19ft speedboat with 2 fishing rods out the stern. Not quite a fishing vessel as referred to in the RYA rules I feel.

To me it is all quite simple. She didn't see us, for whatever reason, she just didn't see us.

Regarding reporting to MCA and MAIB. I am contemplating all options and will keep this post updated as things move on.

Right now, I am just thankful that we are all safe and hope to be back on the water soon, albeit not in the bayliner I had.

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Old 17 October 2007, 18:42   #20
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It could so easily have been much worse. Thank God everything's ok. Don't dwell on it or it will take a long time to fade. Kids are amazing at getting over things - they are probably heros in school already!!!
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