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06 November 2009, 15:14
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Cumbria/London/Brittany
Boat name: Into the Red
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 7m +
Engine: 'Rude E-tec 250HO
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a frame conundrum
Hi chaps,
I would like to pick your brains on a couple of points that I'm not sure about with regard to my new boat.
Specifically the a frame conundrum.
If I were speccing a new boat, I'm sure that I would go for an a frame due to aesthetics, practicality etc however as Mollers alluded to, Roy is a little anti a frame and instead has fitted a ski pole(pic1). This means that essentially, there is no obvious high point to mount the nav lights. He has currently fitted a socket on one of the transom boxes,(pic2) but has used an a frame-mountable sized pole which(pic3+4) is obviously far too low to be legal in relation to the console mounted colour lights.
Since the boat will remain under english flag but be kept in France I will need a permenant flag pole - another thing so easy to fit with an a frame.
The obvious thing to do in this situation is fit an a frame, but this I think would create a whole host of issues - the cover would no longer fit, the ski pole would have to be removed and may leave unsightly marks, and (pic5)/ roy has cleats mounted where the front bar would attach to.
The current set up that I have agreed is that I will use the current nav light pole as a flag pole/nav light pole. However, I think that this is a bit silly and looks wrong, so I would like to find a better solution...
Essentially, I think the above boils down to:
1 I need a flagpole without an a frame
2 I need a better solution for the white nav light
Thanks for reading!!
*edit* sorry some of the pics are missing, Ill fix that later!
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06 November 2009, 15:22
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Country: USA
Town: Oakland CA
Length: 3m +
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,979
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How about mounting a 1 meter (or taller) post on the side of the console?
jky
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06 November 2009, 16:17
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Country: UK - England
Town: Up Norf
Make: Avon SR4,Tremlett 23
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yam 55, Volvo 200
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 4,997
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Something like this, its JSP's old light pole:
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06 November 2009, 16:26
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#4
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Country: UK - England
Town: Bucks
Boat name: Spare Rib
Make: Zodiac/Bombard
Length: 6m +
Engine: 90hp Yamaha
Join Date: Feb 2003
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That pole light is useless - it's not even above the top of the motor. Also I think that the sidelights have to be in a combined lantern on the centreline if the all round white is not on the centreline.
Why would you have to remove the ski pole if you get an A frame?
I would get the A frame, keep the ski pole and use the existing light pole socket for a flag pole.
p.s. A frame also gives you mounting for VHF antenna - where's that currently?
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06 November 2009, 16:39
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#5
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Country: UK - England
Town: yorkshire
Boat name: little vicky
Make: avon ex RNLI
Length: 3m +
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,632
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unless you are planning on skiing at night or in bad viz ,,why not make a light pole extension to slot or slide over the existing ski pole ,,so that it can be removed easy,,,with regards to the A frame its another hand hold or something else to stop you falling over the stern ,,you may be able to use part of the taper section of an old mast from a sailing dinghy ,,,mart
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06 November 2009, 17:46
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#6
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Country: Ireland
Town: Belfast
Boat name: Cait
Make: Humber
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp Opti
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 397
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Get an A frame!
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08 November 2009, 13:42
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#7
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 5,358
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Observer
Why would you have to remove the ski pole if you get an A frame?
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'cos the ski rope would foul on the A-frame after the skier crosses the wake.
What's all this fuss about flying an inglish flag?
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08 November 2009, 13:56
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Redbay supporter
Country: Ireland
Make: Quicksilver
Length: under 3m
Engine: Toohotsue 9.8 2T
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Downhilldai
What's all this fuss about flying an inglish flag? 
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oh, very important if you're an inglish ribber, I'd have thought. It denotes to johnny foringer that you're from the United Ingland. I think this contains Counties Wales, Scotland and some parts of some parts of County Ireland
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I wonder will Roy's new rib have an A-frame?
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08 November 2009, 14:02
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#9
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Country: UK - England
Town: Exeter
Boat name: TomBuoy
Make: Solent
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mercruiser 1.7dti
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Join Date: Oct 2003
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Maybe an A-frame over the console...probably not cheap but they can be made to look quite good. Nice place to mount the radar if you ever decide to fit it too.
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08 November 2009, 14:15
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Redbay supporter
Country: Ireland
Make: Quicksilver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by simmons0
Maybe an A-frame over the console...
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It would certainly meet gotchi's technical requirements. Not so sure about the looks on his rib though...
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