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Old 13 February 2005, 17:14   #1
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A Big Thanks To Swifty Ie Tim And Chirs P For Saving Me And Bethany Today

I am sitting here feeling a bit shocked and dazed it could have been so diffrent

i must take my hat off to tim and chris for the rescue they carried out to day on the thames pulling my seven year old bethany and my self from a 5 knot
tide with no regard for there own safety

as i can,t remember much i am sure the lads that were out with us to will add the bits i forget

it start with us heading down river to the barrier we stopped for the lads to
group up so i got the camera out to take some shots.
i can only think i hit the choke switch with my knee stalling the engine. i then put the camera down as i saw i was heading for a very big barge i put the boat in gear to go but nothing was happening as i had stalled and not noticed. i then in panic mode tryed to get it started in gear at which point i hit a mooring rope with the A frame so i grabbed hold of this rope to pull the boat under but the tide was to strong. i think at that stage tim and chris came in to help. but as the tide was so strong it was tilting the rib against the rope with the a frame the rope was stuck under a nav light which in the end broke as the rib came back down
bethany was sent flying into the thames i then jumped in after her to stop her floating off tim then cut his engine and pulled her with in seconds into his boat
then mr rat and mrs rat came in to take bethany off to a warm car we then recoverd my rib with chris p searider and tim help to tow me back to dry land

i would like to say again thank you to tim (swifty) chris p and richard and his wife mr and mrs rat of all your help

i them all a large drink

and worst of all the thing started first time with no choke when on the muffs
at home

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Old 13 February 2005, 17:47   #2
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Jesus, that all sounds as though it got a little hairy. Thankfully sounds like there were enough people there to help you out quickly.

Whatever you do, don't let it put you off getting back on the water!
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Old 13 February 2005, 17:58   #3
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Really glad your all O.K Dan, proves how important safety is where water is involved. Hope Bethany has not been too frightened, give her our love.

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I didn't see much of what happened except Tim or Chris hauling Dan out of the water (have you seen the size of Dan!).

All very shocking, especially when I realised that Bethany had been in.

Really glad everyone's OK Dan. You had us worried!

Well done to Tim, Chris , Bilge & Mrs Bilge - you were all fantastic.
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Good work indeed from your cruising companions, Dan.

We're really pleased to know you're both OK - sounds like a very scary few minutes. When things start to go wrong, things happen really quickly, don't they?

Now here's the crucial question.... will your wife let Bethany out with you on the next sub-5's expedition? (And will she let you out!?!)
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Good work indeed from your cruising companions, Dan.

We're really pleased to know you're both OK - sounds like a very scary few minutes. When things start to go wrong, things happen really quickly, don't they?

Now here's the crucial question.... will your wife let Bethany out with you on the next sub-5's expedition? (And will she let you out!?!)
Rich i think you hit the nail on the head, this thing happened so very quickly that it was almost over as quickly as it started, fair play to Swifty and Chris parker for there part in the rescue, they were both in there like rats up drain pipes and both have the experience and knowledge to pull of what was a difficult potentially life threatening rescue.

From our point we could see exactly what was happening and can recall accurately the turn of events.

Dan lost his engine just upstream of a nasty looking cement barge and started to drift back with the tide onto it, he made a grab for a mooring line and seemed to be holding the boat off the barge at this point, both Chris and Tim went in to try and put a line onto Dans boat, this was hampered by the fact they were both trying to control there own boats in the current and at the same time secure a line onto Dans bow, Dan was still holding onto the barge mooring rope at this point, as Tim began to take up the slack the boat spun around under the mooring rope and the A frame snagged on the rope, the rope slipped up the A frame and caught fast around the light at the top, as the side lights both pinged off the boat rocked over to one side and as it recovered Bethany rocked backwards and straight over the side into the water, from our vantage point it looked as if Dan had gone over with her but later analysis showed that he'd actually dived in to grab her, Tim came around quickly and grabbed Bethany form the water now only a matter of feet away from the front edge of the barge, Chris had put himslef between a large mooring post and the scene and we went in quickly to help where we could, but by the time i'd got myself under the mooring rope Dan was on Tims boat.
They then pulled Dans boat out into the river and we quickly grabbed Bethany and took off back down to where the cars were parked to sort her out while Tim, Chris and Dan attempted to recover and restart Dans boat to no avail.

We were well impressed with Bethany's life jacket and the way it activated on contact with the water, she was wearing a pink hat that was still bone dry back at the car, the jacket fired off so quickly her head didn't even go under the water, we are now considering changing our life jackets for auto inflating in light of what we saw happen. Dan feels he had a lucky escape yesterday, when you take your eye off the ball even for a second mother nature takes the opportunity to kick your arse......Dan welcome to the club mate.
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Dan' dont feel..........

............too bad, these things happen mate. The main thing is, you're all ok. Well done to all involved, perhaps once the dust has settled a bit we can analyse, in more detail what happened and what we can ALL learn from such an incident - I hasten to say incident and not accident. Anyway - rreally glad you are all safe and I very much hope your family will not be put off such adventures again - my daughter is 8 so I can empathise with how you all feel.
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............ perhaps once the dust has settled a bit we can analyse, in more detail what happened and what we can ALL learn from such an incident
I agree with Graham on this, without the snipping and piss taking ribnet is a great forum to learn from and these incidents need to be said, and talked about in the hope that someone will learn something from someone elses misfortune.
In this situation i think the only thing Dan done wrong was to be so close to the barge, and then losing his engine compounded matters.
Hindsight is a wonderful things and its easy to sit around later and talk about what we should have done or if it happens again what we'd do different but situations dictate actions and sometimes you have to make the best of whats at hand at the time, we could all do with practicing our skills and one of the actions we've talked about after this is a skills practice day during the summer, man over board, towing etc.
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I have sent Dan my recollections and will leave him to digest/share his thoughts. After all it was Dans 'event' and the last word should go to him.

Personally I think Dan showed exactly where his priorities were... His daughter and not for himself or his boat. Bravo Mate.

Thanks also to Chris P, the Bilge rats, Rich L and crew. It was a team effort.

PS next time take a towel!
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Old 14 February 2005, 07:17   #10
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I agree with MeMe and Mr Rat

Dan has laid the bare facts on the table, accepting his involvement and acknowledging his mistakes and can only be commended; some people find this hard to do and would wish to blame others or give excuses.

I am not saying that you can only be forgiven after a bit of grovelling, what I am trying to say is that you can only learn from your mistakes once you admit that they have happened and that you are involved.

I think to be a fair, Dan didnít do anything wrong, he might have done it differently, but what he did was not wrong. Judging tide flow or current is very difficult and it is an area that the professionals get wrong regularly. Equally diving in after a casualty is a difficult decision but Iíve known it save lives. Two of Danís safety precaution did work, his daughter was wearing a life jacket and he was travelling in company

The only things I would suggest using the wisdom of hindsight is an engine stall buzzer and a throw line, having said that both of these need time to deploy or react to and it sound like it happened so fast these might not have helped.
Well done to all involved for their quick reaction it stopped an incident turning into a accident.


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