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Old 05 January 2010, 13:48   #11
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Thanks all for the imput, seems it will be quite a full day at slow pace, so "it should be put together using A4 nuts, bolts and screws, bolted where you can get at, screwed where you can't".

How many mm (diameter) and long are A4 (nuts, bolts & screws) Must you use plain washers on central console, driver seat lower borders to secure to deck, must silika gel be placed between lower console, seat borders and deck. Sorry to ask these silly issues, no experience whatsoever on equipped ribs. We learn fast...

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Thanks all for the imput, seems it will be quite a full day at slow pace, so "it should be put together using A4 nuts, bolts and screws, bolted where you can get at, screwed where you can't".

How many mm (diameter) and long are A4 (nuts, bolts & screws) Must you use plain washers on central console, driver seat lower borders to secure to deck, must silika gel be placed between lower console, seat borders and deck. Sorry to ask these silly issues, no experience whatsoever on equipped ribs. We learn fast...

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Loco - A4 refers to the type of steel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stainle...tainless_steel) - marine grade stainless. The length of self tapping screws will depend on the deck construction - there have been some helpful discussions in the past which you'll find with the search (as I recall JWalker had some particularly useful advice for fitting self tapping screws).

A proper sikaflex adhesive must be used in addition to the screws to properly bond it to the deck. Otherwise bad things happen going round corners: http://www.maib.gov.uk/cms_resources/Abersoch%20RIB.pdf

Just an observation:- as I understand it you are supplying someone with a rib that you are importing and rigging. Firstly if I would expect the manufacturer to supply instructions / advice on rigging their boat and fitting the console. Secondly if I were the customer I would expect that I am paying you for your skills and experience not for you to be learning on my boat using info you find on the internet. I realise everyone has to learn to do this - but working blind without instruction from the manufacturer or significant experience is potentially a recipe for disaster (broken boats, dissatisfied customer and even injury are all possibilities). Its not rocket science - but it is possible to f**k it up.
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Old 05 January 2010, 14:24   #13
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You would be correct. Sorry for the thread drift - but why is a verado any different from other engines in terms of how long it takes to fit it to the transom?
A Verado is driven by wire so lots of cables can be fun to loose in some consoles, it is supplied with top mounts only (I may be corrected on this) and you will need to make a bracket to fit to a jockey console. It is also a tall engine and as a repower, you can take an old engine off, fit a verado and find it won't go under the a-frame as I think CJL found.

It's a good engine and we would recommend one but don't get fitting a Verado for the same price as you would fit a yam 90. 2 stroke
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Just an observation:- as I understand it you are supplying someone with a rib that you are importing and rigging. Firstly if I would expect the manufacturer to supply instructions / advice on rigging their boat and fitting the console. Secondly if I were the customer I would expect that I am paying you for your skills and experience not for you to be learning on my boat using info you find on the internet. I realise everyone has to learn to do this - but working blind without instruction from the manufacturer or significant experience is potentially a recipe for disaster (broken boats, dissatisfied customer and even injury are all possibilities). Its not rocket science - but it is possible to f**k it up.
Glad its not just me that was thinking this. First wave and the console comes off!
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Old 05 January 2010, 17:43   #15
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The rib is at customs, in 2 more days will be out, has attached factory literature about rigging, just wanted to be a pace ahead technically speaking before the rib is at the shop.

The rib was not factory rigged because the Yam engine has 13" cables (control box) and center console & driver seat will be installed accordingly to match 13" mechanical steering cable. Hope all (3) 13" cables match, that's another issue. Will let you know what happened, thanks all.

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The rib was not factory rigged because the Yam engine has 13" cables (control box) and center console & driver seat will be installed accordingly to match 13" mechanical steering cable. Hope all (3) 13" cables match, that's another issue. Will let you know what happened, thanks all.

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As has already been said the console needs to be placed so the boat is balanced not because of the length of the cables.

Why not let the manufacturer fit the console then you fit the correct length cables.
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As has already been said the console needs to be placed so the boat is balanced not because of the length of the cables.

Why not let the manufacturer fit the console then you fit the correct length cables.
The factory recommended to install 13" steering cables for correct boat balance, it's very difficult to buy cables down here as most used sizes cables are not available, must be imported from USA and that takes time, it's mission impossible to find them during summer which has already started, all stores stock is out, one more month to stock them.

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So the factory recommend 13' cables but won't fix the console down to suit?
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So the factory recommend 13' cables but won't fix the console down to suit?
Believe not, because the steering system and gauges were bought to Defender (USA) and not to manufacturer so to come factory pre rigged. Polwart, very Interesting the PDF article about loosing a center console by not being correctly fixed to hull, a vey important safe issue to bear this.

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You would be correct. Sorry for the thread drift - but why is a verado any different from other engines in terms of how long it takes to fit it to the transom?
Cause when you fit a Verado they spend about an hour on the phone to Barrus with a laptop setting them up!! You can't fit them yourself at all.
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