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Old 27 January 2009, 18:31   #41
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Buy some more fuel pipe and put the fuel tanks in the bow. You'll be suprised how much difference it makes.

Completely different but my Longliner would ride bow up, too much throttle I know. Put some shot blast grit in the bow and it was fine.... hit the first wave and it went through it rather than over it!

Think I paid £8 for a bag of grit which weighed roughly 30kg.

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That's an idea Phill, but using weighed out bags of sand as the ballast.
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post pics of what you want to put on the boat and i'll tell you where to put them using your posted pic as a datum, i want to see battery, tanks, seat, console etc
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Console is the same as Chewy's

Not sure on the tank yet but any ideas would be most welcome.
Battery is around the standard sized leisure size and the twin jockey is in the photo.
Will get pics tomorrow
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Looks like your console and seat are as far back as they can be - was the boat previously used bysomeone who carried a couple of divers in the bow?

My 5.4 had a 90 mariner on the back. Outhill console as far forward as it would go - there was a redundant foot rest forward from when the boat had back to back speedboat seating.

I would experiment with moving your tanks around. It's amazing how much difference moving 40kg of fuel 3 metres will make.

Keep the flooding if you can. With mine if I floored it from stationary I would also get a very bow high take off. Trick is to gently come up to about 6 or 7 knots - this is where the water starts to come away from the transom or a "crest" in your wake forms. Flooding hull will drain, lighter stern, gun it and you're away!
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gonna log off in a min but measure the base of the console where it get fatter and i may have an ali tank that fits inside that front section
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Old 27 January 2009, 19:16   #46
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Looks like your console and seat are as far back as they can be - was the boat previously used bysomeone who carried a couple of divers in the bow?

My 5.4 had a 90 mariner on the back. Outhill console as far forward as it would go - there was a redundant foot rest forward from when the boat had back to back speedboat seating.

I would experiment with moving your tanks around. It's amazing how much difference moving 40kg of fuel 3 metres will make.

Keep the flooding if you can. With mine if I floored it from stationary I would also get a very bow high take off. Trick is to gently come up to about 6 or 7 knots - this is where the water starts to come away from the transom or a "crest" in your wake forms. Flooding hull will drain, lighter stern, gun it and you're away!
I'm not 100% but I think it was David Manning who put the console in. I've never stopped asking him questions since I got it so I've decided to give the poor fella a break.

The thing is with just moving the tanks is they aren't a constant weight.
Thanks for the tips as well. All good stuff
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The tanks aren't a constant weight but moving them forward helps you in two ways.
First is removing weight from the stern which won't help your bow lift, second is getting weight in the bow. You could be killing two birds with one stone buy moving them?
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The tanks aren't a constant weight but moving them forward helps you in two ways.
First is removing weight from the stern which won't help your bow lift, second is getting weight in the bow. You could be killing two birds with one stone buy moving them?
That's true mate. But I'm wondering if they would be best in the middle where the console is now. When they put that console in they have fixed them to the deck there. Getting some new hose this week so will rig them up there. And when I find a new trailer I'll give them a go.
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gonna log off in a min but measure the base of the console where it get fatter and i may have an ali tank that fits inside that front section
Sorry missed this, it's approx 40cm2
Like I said in the last post to chewy though, I think tanks could be best where they are meant to be now with the console in front.
Me+Console+ tanks mid way must be about right???

Anyone wanna buy a searider? Head hurts more than the finger!
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With mine I do not have a lot of bow lift and my console and umm "seat" is way back just like yours so I can pack all the dive gear up front. I only have a 90 lump though and am packing 46l of fuel in the back. I also have a lot of weight up front, 6 steel tanks, three weight belts, another 23l of fuel and assorted other gear in the front half of the boat, well over #300 of gear. My flooding hull is left open and have only had it out a few times.
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both tanks are too big, sorry
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That looks like it will be great fun when you have it set up. I would say moving the fuel forwards and the console too will make a big difference. Blocking off the flooding Hull did not seem to cause MattH's seariders any problems with stability at rest.

I would get that corrosion on the engine mounts and trim tilt pump sorted before it gets much worse.

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That looks like it will be great fun when you have it set up. I would say moving the fuel forwards and the console too will make a big difference. Blocking off the flooding Hull did not seem to cause MattH's seariders any problems with stability at rest.

I would get that corrosion on the engine mounts and trim tilt pump sorted before it gets much worse.

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Cheers Chris.
There's abit more corrosion than you can see there. Need to get it alll sorted. Do they still sell that stuff that treats rust? Used it years ago on a 1978 VW derby and it worked. Not had call to use the stuff since.
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Yep, I used it on some Land Rover wheels and it turned it an anodised purple colour. Think screwfix do it?
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Yep, I used it on some Land Rover wheels and it turned it an anodised purple colour. Think screwfix do it?
Oh I love screwfix, there's a screwfix warehouse not far from here. Nice one
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Think I've got some in the shed anyway John. I'll dig it out and I'll bring it with me Friday.
I'll let you know once I've found it.
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Think I've got some in the shed anyway John. I'll dig it out and I'll bring it with me Friday.
I'll let you know once I've found it.
Cheers mate, no worries if you can't find it though
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I'm wondering if they would be best in the middle where the console is now.
That's where they are meant to be. I had a heavy duty battery in the jockey seat and the hull was blocked off. That prop in the pic is not the one I had on it but it was a 19 pitch.

Set up like that, it did well over 40 knots and handled sweet.
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That's where they are meant to be. I had a heavy duty battery in the jockey seat and the hull was blocked off. That prop in the pic is not the one I had on it but it was a 19 pitch.

Set up like that, it did well over 40 knots and handled sweet.
Hi David,
sounds like that's what the problem is. When I fit this other console in I'll have to work out a way of keeping the tanks in the middle. Time to put crayon to paper and start working out dimensions.
After going out on her the other day I'm not to struck on taking the original console out as it's a real nice set up and great to stand up and use. Just can't see the radio. But I need 3 seats (more if I could) so need to move things forward anyway.
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