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Old 11 May 2015, 20:01   #1
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2x8m vs 1x10m for Tour

I already have the idea for a tour, and have been speaking to various manufacturers across the US and Europe, a few of which are on this board. This thread isn't about which is better, etc, just the concept.

I'm debating whether to do two 7.8-8m boats or one 10m boat.

The tour is about an hour, through protected waters and a bit outside, but if bad weather could stay on the inside.

In terms of financing, I think we can stretch it either way, as overall they'll be similar. The two 8m boats would be more than the single 10m.

Both would run off of Verado 300's, either a single or twins. Preferably a bench seat in the back, console, then dual pod seats forward.

The 10m could handle 16+2, where an 8m could handle 10+2 comfortably.

Obviously would have to hire 2x the crew for the 2 smaller boats vs the larger 10m.

The smaller boats would allow to run a single boat for less people on the tour. They would also allow for one boat to be down while the other one could still be in operation.

The single boat would have two engines, so if one went down it could still get home. It would also make it easier and more comforting to run to further destinations for charters or new tours.

Two boats would also allow for two separate tours to be running at similar times, whereas having just one boat would limit that option. Targeting cruise ships and hotels, so having two boats might be easier to schedule and keep running.

Any input would be greatly appreciated, especially in terms of tours you've been on...I have not been on one yet! But plan to in the next few weeks.

Thanks!
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Old 12 May 2015, 02:25   #2
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Don't know about regs where you are but certainly in the UK it would be much easier to get skippers for 10+2 than 16+2. I think commercially endorsed RYA APB only covers for 12 passengers so you might find yourself having to pay your skipper for the 10mtr boat substantially more.
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Old 12 May 2015, 02:33   #3
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you could start out with a single 8m, see how it goes, test the business model & then go for another 8m or the 10m at a later stage. That way you aren't committed & have the flexibility to adjust the model.
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I guess one of the fears I have is of the engine breaking down with a single. How's the reliability and longevity of a brand-new major manufacturer RIB and a 300hp Verado these days?

In terms of break down - I mean two fold - one, with guests on board. Two, having to cancel bookings.
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hmm didn't think that one through, can use twin 150 outboards for redundancy.
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You realise of course that twin 150s will not give you the performance of a 300 single?
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Yes, if it's an issue we can go with the Verado 175's or 200s. Was looking at the newer fourstroke mercury 150's with the 3.0 liter blocks.
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You realise of course that twin 150s will not give you the performance of a 300 single?
Ian M, I gather you have speed in mind whereas I would argue that sea keeping ability for this application is perhaps more important as a racing rib is not subject of this thread.

For safety and sea keeping performance always twin

Perhaps 250knots or C2RIBS can speak from experience has both operate twin outboard ribs for the same application.
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Twins are a great get out of jail card on the water, but bear in mind for true redundancy you need separate fuel and leccy etc. But you will never set out with 1 of your engines not running...
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I run a 7.5 with twin merc 150 four strokes there really good. On third season with them. Same performance as I got with a single 250 opti on the same boat.
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