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Old 08 October 2004, 04:52   #21
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The, err, two "events" are unrelated
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Old 08 October 2004, 04:53   #22
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Old 08 October 2004, 18:01   #23
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You were right Richard, it was a made up name for reason's unknown.
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Talking of toluene did you know it is an octane booster for petrol - cab be used up to at least 50% and it isn't taxed.................
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Talking of toluene did you know it is an octane booster for petrol - cab be used up to at least 50% and it isn't taxed.................
Octane booster!

Wicked, so you ribnobbers can buy 45 gallon drums of the stuff, clean ya tubes, hands, personal stereos, cars etc. with it, and tip the rest in the fuel tank! cool.

Manos ain't as completely and utterly stupid as a I thought.

Mebbe that's why his falcon is 20mph quicker than anyone elses.

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Old 09 October 2004, 04:00   #26
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As a qualified Chemistry graduate (Merton, Oxford 1979) who managed to cause a small fire before he went to university while at ICI in Runcorn, then a somewhat bigger bang at the Dyson Perrins lab at Oxford, and whose tutor thus recommended a theoretical Part II with no practicals involved.... who then went to the City of London for 20 years.... but who has not forgotten all his practical chemistry......

We used to swill around in toluene and benzene and carbon tet while doing medium scale organic preps in the open lab and bare hands. Safety was a white coat, to stop your jeans getting holed! Never gave it a second thought. I am still alive, and 'relatively' sane in my late 40s....

but i have just bought a rib

Seriously, guys, toluene is nasty stuff. Never use it in poor ventilation, do use plenty of strong soap and hot water to wash your hands down afterwards (in a ventilated area, not a small utility room with the door shut), mind splashes onto eyes (USE GOGGLES), avoid letting toluene sit under your watch strap etc..

Don't mix solvents unless you know what you are doing. Mixtures can get hot or worse! But.... used sensibly and carefully you should be fine with most industrial solvents. READ THE INSTRUCTIONS ON THE WRAPPER,
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I hope you're not suggesting you know more than Manos
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Old 09 October 2004, 05:13   #28
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Solent Ribs / Tohatsu - the true story

Would I dare!

Some info on the backround to Solent.

Heard from Lee yesterday that he acquired a hull as part of a customs seize some years ago. Origins unknown. Lee went to Tohatsu and wanted to do a JV effectively modifying the hull in 7 critical areas. Tohatsu said why bother, just stick with exisitng hull. Lee agreed to this. So they made a mould, but Lee kept the original hull. As the history unfolded through the 'One Design' racing project, Tohatsu resisted any changes, and Lee became frustrated. I think there were some quality control / deck strength / client service issues. Lee and Tohatsu parted company in rib sales. Tohatsu sells out of Lymington the original design. Lee made a new mould incorporating his 7 critical changes (I think one or two were not to the hull, but I am unsure) and launched Solent Ribs. I think he has built 40 ribs to date, of which mine is the latest.

So.... Lee tells me the Tohatsu and Solents are different, not greatly, but more than enough that his product is not felt to be a rip-off by Tohatsu.

I am sure Lee would talk about his changes in more details if anyone wanted to know.

All I can say is that the boat I have feels very close to the 6.5M Scorpion that I liked so much but is now no longer being built. And, kitted out with a trailer, the Solent is currently sub the 20k mark - but not for long, I think...

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Old 09 October 2004, 08:00   #29
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Why would customs seize a mould....was the releasing agent Charlie or something.

(No it was Derek!!! )I think the copyright law says that the splash mustn't fit back in the original mould so any design change is truly critical. So sticking an extra spray rail in makes it legal. The beef isn't with Solent Ribs as such it's the denial of where the design came from.

Interestingly enough I think that Solent did some real work modifying the hull for diesel use and I am hearing that Tohatsu have reversed splashed it and are now using the Solent design.

Solent is better than Scorpion for value and possibly build quality but I fancy that the Scorpion is a slightly better animal in the sea, but I could be wrong .

However the important thing is you have got your rib and now get out there and enjoy it and look forward to all the good times youre gonna have
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We used to swill around in toluene and benzene and carbon tet while doing medium scale organic preps in the open lab and bare hands. Safety was a white coat, to stop your jeans getting holed! Never gave it a second thought. I am still alive, and 'relatively' sane in my late 40s....
Don't mix solvents unless you know what you are doing. Mixtures can get hot or worse! But.... used sensibly and carefully you should be fine with most industrial solvents. READ THE INSTRUCTIONS ON THE WRAPPER,

Yes and I remember not too long ago using mercury without too many precautions - letting it run around in your hand to see it behave like "quicksilver" - now if they spill a drop it's treated like a major NBC alert!!!

On a similar subject they have now introduced something that DOES warrant such precautions - new fridges. Due to concerns over the ozone layer they have banned CFCs from fridges so what do they use - Ammonia! Seriously nasty stuff - heard the other day about an intensive care unit being evacuated because a fridge leaked - with CFCs you wouldn't know - with ammonia you most certainly would!!!
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