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Old 12 January 2009, 20:19   #31
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Those are the temps I expect the sea to be. But I can assure you the actual harbour temp was 4C and must have been lower last week as it froze.
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More of the same here. -34 C right now...
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I met 2 people the other day from Canada. They were horrified how cold it was here - even though it was -30 where they were from they reckon if felt colder here - must be the wind and damp that does it!!!

When I used to do my climbing in the Alps it was often -22 and sunny - we would be in normal shirts and some girls were getting a tan!!!
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I believe that. I've heard people from the prairies here tell me that they had never been so chilled as when visiting Scotland during the winter. That may be in part to the humidity levels there bodies are used to, and perhaps also cold weather clothing that may work well here but not there. Most of my cold weather clothing works best for very cold but relatively low humidity. Really damp conditions will carry that chill right through that clothing.

Cold weather clothing that may work well in one region could be the worst thing in another. This is where getting local wisdom is important. For example when it is about -10 C or colder here a Gore-tex shell is one of the worst materials for an outer shell that you could wear. It does not breathe well enough at all, and you will get soaked from the inside out.
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Old 13 January 2009, 11:32   #35
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I have lived in both Canada and Scotland and it is the humidity levels of our climate that are the killer.
It is much colder in canada away from the coasts but is very dry

And I am not about to start yet another timewasting argument with Codprawn when he doesn't read the posts properly as he now seems an expert in marine physics (and I spent four years working in this field from the med to the high Artic so what do I know?)
No matter what he says there will be no more from me on this repeating the same post deiffrent ways, and the diver is still a sissy
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I believe that. I've heard people from the prairies here tell me that they had never been so chilled as when visiting Scotland during the winter. That may be in part to the humidity levels there bodies are used to, and perhaps also cold weather clothing that may work well here but not there. Most of my cold weather clothing works best for very cold but relatively low humidity. Really damp conditions will carry that chill right through that clothing.

Cold weather clothing that may work well in one region could be the worst thing in another. This is where getting local wisdom is important. For example when it is about -10 C or colder here a Gore-tex shell is one of the worst materials for an outer shell that you could wear. It does not breathe well enough at all, and you will get soaked from the inside out.
Interesting points Guys/ PT
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I have lived in both Canada and Scotland and it is the humidity levels of our climate that are the killer.
It is much colder in canada away from the coasts but is very dry

And I am not about to start yet another timewasting argument with Codprawn when he doesn't read the posts properly as he now seems an expert in marine physics (and I spent four years working in this field from the med to the high Artic so what do I know?)
No matter what he says there will be no more from me on this repeating the same post deiffrent ways, and the diver is still a sissy
I am not trying to argue with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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