Using RIB in Italy

[moontons]

Please can anyone tell me the regulations, costs and requirements of using a 4.5m Zodiac RIB with a Mercury 25 outboard around the Italian coast are. Thanks

[Pikey Dave]

Originally Posted by moontons

Please can anyone tell me the regulations, costs and requirements of using a 4.5m Zodiac RIB with a Mercury 25 outboard around the Italian coast are. Thanks

For starters, this is in addition to the usual foreign cruising requirements e.g. SSR/VAT evidence etc.

[moontons]

Thanks Dave. I'm completely new to this boating lark and finding the correct info seems quite tricky. As far as I can see, we need insurance and all relevant safety gear, but I can't find if there are other costs for an RIB of this size and type.

[Pikey Dave]

Originally Posted by moontons

Thanks Dave. I'm completely new to this boating lark and finding the correct info seems quite tricky. As far as I can see, we need insurance and all relevant safety gear, but I can't find if there are other costs for an RIB of this size and type.

As a starting point I would have the following:-

SSR - Vital, this proves that the vessel is UK registered
Insurance - speaks for itself, having the Italian translation was a newe on on me, I need to speak to my insurers[emoji849]
ICC - not vital, but highly recomended

[moontons]

If wenhave the boat permanantly in Italy, I assume it has to be registered in Italy. Is there a size of boat where it doesn't need to be registered in uk.

[Pikey Dave]

Originally Posted by moontons

If wenhave the boat permanantly in Italy, I assume it has to be registered in Italy. Is there a size of boat where it doesn't need to be registered in uk.

If you are a British citizen, you can register the boat as British on the SSR, there may be advantages & disadvantages to going either way. You are wandering off my competency area now, so can't advise.

[moontons]

Cheers Dave that has been an enormous help.

[Pikey Dave]

Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

As a starting point I would have the following:-

SSR - Vital, this proves that the vessel is UK registered
Insurance - speaks for itself, having the Italian translation was a newe on on me, I need to speak to my insurers[emoji849]
ICC - not vital, but highly recomended

In my dealings with French authorities, I've found the scattergun approach works best. Get as much paperwork together as you can, get the important bits laminated & when they ask for "papiers" just bury 'em, drop the lot on 'em & watch their face turn from "I'm going to give the Rosbiff a hard time, to merde! where did this lot come from?"

[moontons]

Sounds like a plan. Presumably you have to pay a fee to put the boat in the water, or can you just launch it and go

[Will.]

Don't want to hijack this thread but do all sibs and ribs require a SSR? I'm going to France in August and planning on taking my sib with me.

[Pikey Dave]

Originally Posted by Will.

Don't want to hijack this thread but do all sibs and ribs require a SSR? I'm going to France in August and planning on taking my sib with me.

Yup afaik. It is easy to do & costs £25 for 5 years. Saves loads of grief from the authorities.

[Will.]

Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

Yup afaik it is easy to do & costs £25 for 5 years. Saves loads of grief from the authorities.

Thanks for the quick reply, I'll go ahead and set it up.

[John Kennett]

Like PD says, the more you can produce the less hassle you're likely to have.

In many cases it's only what the local authorities think you need that's important. Whatever the rights and wrongs you really don't want to be in a position where you are arguing the toss with them.

Most countries require boats to be registered, so if you have an official number and a formal looking bit of paper it makes them comfortable. SSR registration does this.

Most countries require some sort of licensing for boat users, and a smart multilingual certificate with your photo on it makes them feel comfortable. An ICC does this.

Back these up with proof of VAT paid, insurance (it's always helpful to have at least the key points in the local language), passport and you're looking good. VHF certificate and and any other relevant qualifications are handy too.

[Will.]

Originally Posted by John Kennett

Like PD says, the more you can produce the less hassle you're likely to have.

In many cases it's only what the local authorities think you need that's important. Whatever the rights and wrongs you really don't want to be in a position where you are arguing the toss with them.

Most countries require boats to be registered, so if you have an official number and a formal looking bit of paper it makes them comfortable. SSR registration does this.

Most countries require some sort of licensing for boat users, and a smart multilingual certificate with your photo on it makes them feel comfortable. An ICC does this.

Back these up with proof of VAT paid, insurance (it's always helpful to have at least the key points in the local language), passport and you're looking good. VHF certificate and and any other relevant qualifications are handy too.

Mine is only 2.7m with a 10hp engine. Will the SSR and Insurance certificate be enough?

[John Kennett]

The advice from the RYA recommends that you have an ICC. It sounds like you probably won't be asked for it, but it could save a load of aggro if someone does ask for it.

[Pikey Dave]

Originally Posted by Will.

Mine is only 2.7m with a 10hp engine. Will the SSR and Insurance certificate be enough?

You still may have to prove competence (yours) & VAT status (the boats). If you have a VHF you will need ship & operators licence.

[moontons]

Ok, scuse my ignorance, whats an ICC. Also any idea what the usual costs are when putting your boat in the water in italy or indeed anywhere.

thanks for all the great info.

[Pikey Dave]

Originally Posted by moontons

Ok, scuse my ignorance, whats an ICC. Also any idea what the usual costs are when putting your boat in the water in italy or indeed anywhere.



thanks for all the great info.

ICC = International Certificate of Competence
This is issued by the RYA on production of suitable evidence, usually PB2.

Re. Costs anywhere from free to "'Ow Much??"

[Jerry]

Originally Posted by Will.

Mine is only 2.7m with a 10hp engine. Will the SSR and Insurance certificate be enough?

During our two weeks in France the only time when I was asked for SSR was when leaving UK. They didn't need passports, they didn't need anything, the UK customs very politely asked for boat papers as the only thing of interest. I suspect it was to prove that the boat wasn't stolen, but there you go - get one for £25.