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Old 04 December 2012, 17:02   #21
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Ribfixer, could you please share what the proper solvent is to use for PVC prep wipe before gluing?

Everything I have read is to use MEK, as it forms a deeper bond by softening the PVC fabric more than Acetone.

http://www.starinflatables.com/site_...tions-glue.pdf
How To Repair PVC Inflatable Boats & Rafts.
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Old 04 December 2012, 17:19   #22
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Hi Peter,the correct solvent for prepping pvc for gluing is indeed MEK, be carefull not to saturate the area as MEK is very strong and will quite literelly melt the top surface.Ethyl Acetate is used to remove overglue and is much milder so can be used sparingly to clean stains and grease from any part of the pvc structure.
Please all you diy people always read the instructions on the solvent and if you are unsure ask here,people like myself an Paul Tilley's advice here is FREE.
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Nasher we also use acetone on PVC repairs but we are not professional pvc repairers . Falcon as to trying to fit the tube to a grp hull Go FOR IT if you can find one that will fit that is how a certain rib manufacturer used to make his small ribs by buying cheap dinghies and fitting them to his own hull
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The valve leaks you have can be remedied by replacing the recessed valve inserts and cap washers or valve cap complete. All valves leak to some degree if the valve caps are not fitted, the cap is the final air holding link and must be replaced. You may need to take the boat to a dealer or Zodiac repair station as to confidently remove the insert you need a special tool( PLEASE DO NOT USE SNIPE NOSED PLIERS).
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The valve leaks you have can be remedied by replacing the recessed valve inserts and cap washers or valve cap complete. All valves leak to some degree if the valve caps are not fitted, the cap is the final air holding link and must be replaced. You may need to take the boat to a dealer or Zodiac repair station as to confidently remove the insert you need a special tool( PLEASE DO NOT USE SNIPE NOSED PLIERS).
i know julie has the tool and the valves,
its cheap project, i recon 310 hull will fit
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This is a skilled work and must be done at a professional boat repair shop
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I disagree. His SIB is knackered, and if he can get a free hull what has he got to loose? I'm sure he's intelligent enough not to go to sea in it if it doesn't work out.

A thread springs to mind where a guy built an aluminium hulled rib from scratch in his shed. Proof that anyone can do anything if they put their mind to it!
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I disagree. His SIB is knackered, and if he can get a free hull what has he got to loose? I'm sure he's intelligent enough not to go to sea in it if it doesn't work out.

A thread springs to mind where a guy built an aluminium hulled rib from scratch in his shed. Proof that anyone can do anything if they put their mind to it!
as tim said its bit fun instead going out as we do that too often and my girlfreind said thats not hard..
its only for the children
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I disagree. His SIB is knackered, and if he can get a free hull what has he got to loose? I'm sure he's intelligent enough not to go to sea in it if it doesn't work out. Anyone can do anything if they put their mind to it!
Sorry, didn't get your point, don't know if his sib is knackered or not, Falcon would like to convert his sib into a rib, just saying that if his tubes nearly matches his free rib hull bingo, if not, missiom impossible or hard time modifying gelcoat hull work to match.

You should not play with you life or put others lifes at jeopardy at sea unless you're a complete irresponsible & careless boater. If you are skilled modifying sib/ribs go for it, if not, many others will agreee let the pros do the rib work correctly...

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I'm interested in why we're all being told that certain work should not be attempted at home. Protecting business interests springs to mind.

None of it is a Black art, with a bit of practice and good advise an awful lot can be achieved at home without resorting to paying an hourly rate for somebody else to do it.

I thought that's what this forum was all about

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Plainly in agreement, you should always save cash when possible, the point is that repairing a sib is much friendly, lots of info. Modifying a sib into a rib is other story..

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The valve leaks you have can be remedied by replacing the recessed valve inserts and cap washers or valve cap complete. All valves leak to some degree if the valve caps are not fitted, the cap is the final air holding link and must be replaced. You may need to take the boat to a dealer or Zodiac repair station as to confidently remove the insert you need a special tool( PLEASE DO NOT USE SNIPE NOSED PLIERS).
Special tool also available on eBay!
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I'm interested in why we're all being told that certain work should not be attempted at home. Protecting business interests springs to mind.

None of it is a Black art, with a bit of practice and good advise an awful lot can be achieved at home without resorting to paying an hourly rate for somebody else to do it.

I thought that's what this forum was all about

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yes nasher
and your gt 150 i rember there was 100 i think from middle east that guy paid 100 grand for, and sold them to paul lemmer and others for maybee 2 grand a pot
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and your gt 150 i rember there was 100 i think from middle east that guy paid 100 grand for, and sold them to paul lemmer and others for maybee 2 grand a pot
I've read this about three times, am I missing something here, what has this got to do with making a sib into a rib?
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tim m has hull so plan is to make it rib, as 85% sure its the same as look state off transome
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The valve leaks you have can be remedied by replacing the recessed valve inserts and cap washers or valve cap complete. All valves leak to some degree if the valve caps are not fitted.
Not true, Leafield C7's don't leak wit the cap off.
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thanks to tim m
i have hull but be new year till i look at it well
might spend 10 min over weekend blow tubes up and see
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Not true, Leafield C7's don't leak wit the cap off.
All the valves on my Ocean are airtight - until you fit the outer caps

With the caps off they are fine.

I think they are C7s

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